Obama Administration = the Muslim Brotherhood

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    It appears like you still don't realize that even now. You're still insisting that every post be an "argument" with sources behind them. EARTH TO KWIGYBO: That is NOT the case. If posters wish to make statements as unsupported assertions, they have every right to do that. Frankly, I could find many of those which show much more credible substance, than a lot of the poppycock you and your Islampaologist pals bring in here, pretending to be "arguments".

    What's laughable about this pathetic smear talk attempt, is I've been posting over 300 OPs and thousands of posts for years in PF, and you think you can announce a judgement upon me, ON ONE POST. HA HA. Got any idea how ridiculous that is ? I have thousands of posts in this forum which are loaded with substance-filled links, so what you are accusing me of, is actually one of my strongest points as a poster in this forum. So, all you've done is to broadcast my strength and advertise it. Thanks, man!

    1. The relevance of the large number of posts that I have in the forum, is that WITHOUT YOU EXAMINING THEM (which are loaded with PROOF, EVIDENCE, SOURCES, LINKS) you think it's valid to criticize about posting without those things. Why don't you watch an old baseball game film showing Babe Ruth striking out once or twice and then proclaim what a lousy hitter you think he was.
    Guess what. You can come in here and lay all the smear talk on me you like, and it's not going to have one ounce of effect on my OPs or posts. Fact is, there are hundreds of members in this forum who have clicked "Likes" on thousands of my posts, for years, they have a high regard for them, and your smear talk is about as relevant as a rock in the bottom of a pond. But you can go on with your smear talk if you like. Not my problem. Margot has been making a fool out of herself (or himself) for years now. If you wish to join that, knock yourself out. Hey Margot! Kevin James ? And which Robert Spencer book you claim to have read ? Still waiting for your answers on those.

    2.. Assert all you wish. To protectionists, Zionists are not a threat to the USA. The Muslim Brotherhood absolutely is. It not only threatens the US, but it has been HARMING the US for 22 years now. (see the Islamization Quiz).

    "The process of settlement [of Islam in the United States] is a "Civilization-Jihadist" process with all that the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood in North America] must understand that all their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" their miserable house by their hands, and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated, and Allah's religion is made victorious over all religions."

    Mohamed Akram, "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America" May 22, 1991, Government Exhibit 003-0085, United States vs. Holy Land Foundation, et al.

    3. If other presidents in the last 30 years had ties to Saudi financiers of terrorism, that does not argue against the fact that Obama and his administration is pro-Muslim Brotherhood. First of all, the Muslim Brotherhood IN AMERICA is what Obama is in cahoots with.

    4. As far as foreign nations go, Saudi Arabia is not even the foreign nation that is closely associated with the Muslim Brotherhood. Egypt is.

    5. Terrorism is not so much the MO of the Muslim Brotherhood, NON-violent stealth jihad (AKA Islamization) is (although there are some connections as shown by the Holy Land Foundation Trial).

    6. Obama also is pro-Muslim Brotherhood by virtue of his support for the Arab Spring (a pre-cursor to the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. I wrote about that a year ago with a link to the relevant Doug Schoen article.

    7. Obama invited Brotherhood leaders to attend his notorious speech to the Islamic world in Cairo, Egypt, in June 4, 2009.

    8. He chose the leader of a Muslim Brotherhood-linked group that had been named an unindicted co-conspirator in a Hamas terror funding case to give a prayer during his inauguration ceremonies. Ingrid Mattson, then-president of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA - the top Muslim Brotherhood front group in America), offered this prayer at the National Cathedral on Obama’s Inauguration Day.

    9. He sent his senior adviser, Valerie Jarrett, to be the keynote speaker at the ISNA’s national convention in 2009.

    10. Obama appointed Arif Alikhan, the deputy mayor of Los Angeles, as assistant secretary for policy development at the Department of Homeland Security. Just two weeks before, he received this appointment, Alikhan (who once called the jihad terror group Hezbollah a “liberation movement”) participated in a fund-raiser for the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC). Like the ISNA, MPAC has links to the Muslim Brotherhood.

    11. He has numerous Muslim Brotherhood members in his administration (previous presidents did not-although I'm not so sure about George W. Bush). They are:

    Huma Abedin
     
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    I can't remember which book.. I read about half of it and was in touch with dozens of Americans who had lived in Arabia 20-40 years and they just howled over it.

    He fooled a lot of people like you, but that whole Jihad Watch crap is rapidly becoming a laughing stock.
     
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    CONTINUED FROM THE PREVIOUS POST: # 152

    11. He has numerous Muslim Brotherhood members in his administration (previous presidents did not-although I'm not so sure about George W. Bush). They are:

    Huma Abedin (deputy chief of staff to Hillary Clinton), Rashad Hussain (White House Counsel), Dalia Mogahed (appointed in April 2009 to the White House Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships.), Salam al-Marayati; Mohamed Magid - (instructor in CIA courses), Mohamed Elibiary, (Homeland Security Advisory Committee Member), Eboo Patel (Obama Administration Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships),

    12. Obama nominated the Pro-Jihadist John Brennan to head the CIA. Brennan called jihad a "legitimate tenet of Islam," arguing that the term "jihadists" should not be used to describe America's enemies. During a speech at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, John Brennan described violent extremists as "victims of political, economic and social forces," Brennan speechifies in Arabic, and has equated Muslim terrorists with shoplifters.

    13. A year-long investigation by the Investigative Project on Terrorism (IPT) has found that scores of known radical Islamists made hundreds of visits to the Obama White House, meeting with top administration officials.

    Court documents and other records have identified many of these visitors as belonging to groups serving as fronts for the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas and other Islamic militant organizations.

    The IPT made the discovery combing through millions of White House visitor log entries. IPT compared the visitors' names with lists of known radical Islamists. Among the visitors were officials representing groups which have:
    Been designated by the Department of Justice as unindicted co-conspirators in terrorist trials; Extolled Islamic terrorist groups including Hamas and Hezballah;
    Obstructed terrorist investigations by instructing their followers not to cooperate with law enforcement;
    Promoted the incendiary conspiratorial allegation that the United States is engaged in a "war against Islam"— a leading tool in recruiting Muslims to carry out acts of terror;
    Repeatedly claimed that many of the Islamic terrorists convicted since 9-11 were framed by the U.S government as part of an anti-Muslim profiling campaign.

    Individuals from the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) visited the White House at least 20 times starting in 2009. In 2008, CAIR was listed as an unindicted co-conspirator in the largest terrorist money laundering case in U.S. history – the trial of the Holy Land Foundation in which five HLF officials were convicted of funneling money to Hamas.

    U.S. District Court Judge Jorge Solis later ruled that, "The Government has produced ample evidence to establish the association" of CAIR to Hamas, upholding their designations as unindicted co-conspirators. In 2008, the FBI formally ended all contact with CAIR because of its ties to Hamas.


    http://www.westernjournalism.com/obamas-ties-to-the-muslim-brotherhood-2/

    http://www.humanevents.com/2011/02/08/obamas-muslim-brotherhood-ties/

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/wan...the-muslim-brotherhood-is-to-the-obama-admin/
     
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    HA HA. Forgot huh ? HA HA. I haven't forgotten books that I read 50 years ago. You never read any Robert Spencer book, as evidenced by this post + your total lack of knowledge about Islamization, and your paralysis in the face of the Islamization Quiz. Anyone who had read ANY Robert Spencer book would be familiar with quite a few of the items of the Islamization Quiz. You are familiar with none of them. Forget the 400 items of the Quiz, you can't even get ONE right. Who's Kevin James (and his connection to Islamization)? (well-known to students of Islamization)
     
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    You are calling the notion that the moon landing might have been faked "nonsense" ? Got any evidence to support that ASSERTION (or are we just supposed to take it on faith ?). If you have some evidence for your ASSERTION, let's hear it.
     
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    Actually I did and had a long online exchange with one of the think tanks about ten years ago. It was Stratfor.. We had a lengthy correspondence.
     
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    OFF TOPIC!
     
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    OFF TOPIC!
     
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    Yeah, Suuuuuuurrre !! :roll: :giggle:
     
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    Spencer only recently was pushing the fake Mohammad Al-Arifi story.. LOLOL

    I can talk with kings and governors and CEOs .. so its not exactly rocket science to talk with a think tank.
     
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    You can make a credible and effective argument both with and without sources. All depends on what you're talking about.

    You're not a newbie here, so stop pretending. Just because someone comes tumbling in here with a pile of idiocy, doesn't mean you have to join him. No need for excuses, and my repetitive and non-repetitive, predictable and non-predictable statements have plenty of history of being backed up with real proof, (AND YOU KNOW IT)

    for example this (posted dozens of times)

    "The process of settlement [of Islam in the United States] is a "Civilization-Jihadist" process with all that the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood in North America] must understand that all their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" their miserable house by their hands, and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated, and Allah's religion is made victorious over all religions."

    Mohamed Akram, "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America" May 22, 1991, Government Exhibit 003-0085, United States vs. Holy Land Foundation, et al
     
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    Your ASSERTION does not have a source to support it. Watch out! Kwiybo (or whatever his name is) won't like that. He'll tell you that you need to make an "argument". Bwa ha ha ha ha. (Burt Reynolds laugh)

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/glenhsparky/5262443197/
     
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    One of my sons was an actor for a half dozen years and worked with Burt, Mickey Rooney and others.. Burt had a place in the GA mountains back in the day and was friendly towards extended family that had a summer cottage there.

    There are good sources, protectionist.. The American Muslim is one... so is SUSRIS.. you have simply fallen in with a pack of ignorant haters.
     
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    I think the Republicans know all of this and must be party to it. Otherwise, they would have raised hell about it and made it front page news.
    I now think both parties have been filled with communists as stated by Allen West. That being the case, I see an armed revolution coming since
    nobody seems to have the ability or desire to get them out. Why haven't these communist plants been paraded before the American public and sent to prison?
     
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    To be fair, the OP requires a special kind of stupid nut job!! The average right winger is hardly a great thinker, but even they see stuff like this and shake their heads in disbelief!!
     
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    If you have any evidence to show any reason for disbelief, let's hear it. Until then, the OP is FACT, and it stands uneffected by you or anyone else in this forum.
     
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    You make the same stupid mistake that Romney did, confusing the 47% who don't pay FIT with the 47% who are Democratic voters. In fact, a lot of elderly people who get Social Security are Republicans, as are a lot of active-duty military. And here's another inconvenient fact: the poorest states -- the ones who get the most federal aid -- tend vote Republican.
     
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    More evidence of my point. The burden of proof is not on me to disprove the insane idiocy in the OP, the burden is on YOU to prove it. That is how logic and debate works. I can assert that all Muslims are space aliens sent by a hostile race of aliens to ready earth for colonization, but unless I actually you, put forward a coherent and intelligent argument, I haven't done much. Pointing out the fact that some Muslims exist in America, and are employed, sometimes even in...... :fear: government... is hardly evidence of anything. Other than extreme paranoid delusion, leading to false conclusions.
     
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    And guess why they do. >>> Hint: It's not economics.
     
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    Do you ever read the title of a thread and say, "geezums, how did this nonsense get this many replies?"
     
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    LOLOLOLOL.. Well said.
     
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    Did you ever read the thread (beyond the title) >>> OF COURSE NOT !! :giggle:
     
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    I read the OP, and would have gained more reading the things written in (*)(*)(*)(*) on the walls of an insane asylum. It was meandering incoherent nonsense. Your premise is, they are muslim, they know some people who happen to also be muslim and are part of a muslim organization I don't like, therefore those other people they know must be as well. :spin: I hate to break this to you, but I know Egyptians who worked with Muslim brothers before, and they happen to be atheists. It is irrelevant. I don't even know why I bothered with the last sentence. Sincerely engaging with you, would be as useful as me going to the asylum and cleaning all the (*)(*)(*)(*) off the wall in an attempt to change hearts and minds. More (*)(*)(*)(*) will just be thrown against the wall tomorrow, and some morons at this forum will decide to write in it.
     
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    Because fear and racism are alive and well; stupidity tends to accompany negative emotions/mindsets.
     

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