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Obama Administration's War Against The Second Amendment...Continued...

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by onalandline, Mar 10, 2012.

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  1. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Truth or no...it doesn't matter...there is no such thing as a UBC currently...and for a variety of very valid reasons. It is one area where I give credit to the moderate Democrats of the Senate.
     
    Small Town Guy, Aug 10, 2014
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  2. rahl

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    the answer is the same way they make sure one is performed with an FFL. there is no database required.
     
    rahl, Aug 10, 2014
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    it would work the same way an FFL background check works and be just as effective





    ive already shown you how they don't need a database, just like they don't need a database now for FFL's to conduct one.

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    no relevance to the thread. troll somewhere else.
     
    rahl, Aug 10, 2014
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  4. rahl

    rahl Banned

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    lol, you guys are hilarious.




    just showed you it doesn't always exists, and can be taken away.

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    they can do that without a militia. just like the supreme court told you.

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    they do.
     
    rahl, Aug 10, 2014
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  5. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong

    wrong
     
    Small Town Guy, Aug 10, 2014
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  6. danielpalos

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    No, they can not keep and bear Arms for their State or the Union but only acquire and posses Arms as private property.

    No, they don't.
     
    danielpalos, Aug 10, 2014
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  7. rahl

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    I accept your concession.

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    Nope. Supreme Court called bull(*)(*)(*)(*) on that

    Yes, they do.
     
    rahl, Aug 11, 2014
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  8. danielpalos

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    Nope, you just don't have a clue or a Cause. You are confusing rights in private property with a right to not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for a State or the Union.
     
    danielpalos, Aug 12, 2014
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    Nope. The Supreme Court called bull(*)(*)(*)(*) on that.
     
    rahl, Aug 12, 2014
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  10. OrlandoChuck

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    You don't get it. If UBC's are required by law, and If I want to sell my gun in a private transaction and we agree NOT to go to an FFL and get a background check, there is no way we can get caught unless there is a database.
     
    OrlandoChuck, Aug 12, 2014
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    You may have misunderstood the ruling; it dealt with rights in private property for personal use by Individuals who are considered, specifically, unconnected with Militia service, well regulated.

    Only well regulated Militias of the People have literal recourse to keep and bear Arms for their State or the Union; regardless of any rights in private property.
     
    danielpalos, Aug 12, 2014
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    Nope. All that needs to be done is require proof of purchase with a corresponding NICS number associated with the background check done. Just like with FFL's.

    No database needed, just like FFL's don't need one.

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    Nope. It clarified the meaning of,the second amendment for people like you who deliberately try to misrepresent it.

    Nope. Supreme Court calls bull(*)(*)(*)(*) on this m
     
    rahl, Aug 12, 2014
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  13. danielpalos

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    Nope; you just don't understand the concepts.
     
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    I repeatedly pound you over the head with the "concepts" via Supreme Court precedent.

    You lost. Get over it.
     
    rahl, Aug 12, 2014
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    you don't know what you are talking about.

    Only well regulated Militias of the People have literal recourse to keep and bear Arms for their State or the Union; regardless of any rights in private property.

    Paragraph (2) of DC v Heller only applies to Individuals of the People who are considered specifically unconnected with Militia service, well regulated.
     
    danielpalos, Aug 12, 2014
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    Since my argument won in court.........twice, clearly I do.

    The Supreme Court called bull(*)(*)(*)(*) on this
    Nothing in paragraph two supports Mod edit,,insult,,,flounder
     
    rahl, Aug 12, 2014
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    You still dont get it..... how are we going to get caught by the law if we choose not to do a do UBC in a private transaction?
     
    OrlandoChuck, Aug 13, 2014
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    You don't understand the concepts; claiming an individual right private property in no way establishes a right to keep and bear Arms for a State or the Union. Only well regulated militias have that right.
     
    danielpalos, Aug 13, 2014
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    If you are found in possession of a firearm without a bill of sale and corresponding NICS transaction number. Very similar to FFL's.

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    Nope. The Supreme Court called bull(*)(*)(*)(*) on this.........twice

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    Nope. The Supreme Court called bull(*)(*)(*)(*) on this.........twice
     
    rahl, Aug 14, 2014
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    so, what you're advocating is a registration for owners and guns so they know where to come get them, eh?
     
    stjames1_53, Aug 14, 2014
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    No. Just like there is no registration now, there would be no registration with UBC's.
     
    rahl, Aug 14, 2014
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  22. danielpalos

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    Nope; it is merely your misunderstanding of the issues that enables you to appeal to the ignorance you do. Are you claiming the Individual rights view or not? Only the collectives of well regulated Militias of the People may not be Infringed.
     
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    Nope the Supreme Court called bull(*)(*)(*)(*) on this m
     
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    you don't understand the concepts.
     
    danielpalos, Aug 14, 2014
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  25. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you get a NICS (read database kept by the FBI) number when you purchase a firearm from a FFL dealer currently?
     
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