Obama Defends Roe v. Wade As Way for ‘Our Daughters’ to Have Same Chance As Sons to ‘

Seriously? I am absolutely right. The only way to follow the constitution is to either follow the 10th amendment and let the states decide, or create a federal amendment supporting or denying an abortion. There is no argument to this. It is absolute fact that the constitution does not in any way mention abortion. The supreme court cannot make laws! Thats it.

 

You seem to be ignorant of Roe v Wade. What a shocker to find that you are anti-choice.

 

Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973), is a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court on the issue of abortion. Decided simultaneously with companion case Doe v. Bolton, the Court ruled that a right to privacy under the due process clause in the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution extends to a woman's decision to have an abortion, but that right must be balanced against the state's two legitimate interests for regulating abortions: protecting prenatal life and protecting the woman's health. Saying that these state interests become stronger over the course of a pregnancy, the Court resolved this balancing test by tying state regulation of abortion to the woman's current trimester of pregnancy.
The Court later rejected Roe's trimester framework, while affirming Roe's central holding that a person has a right to abortion until viability.[1] The Roe decision defined "viable" as being "potentially able to live outside the mother's womb, albeit with artificial aid," adding that viability "is usually placed at about seven months (28 weeks) but may occur earlier, even at 24 weeks."[

Roe V Wade gives women the right to kill until a baby can live on its own. Well NO baby can live on its own. You remove any baby from care and it will die. artificial or natural either way they will die. I don't think thats a valid argument. Why don't I have the privacy to kill babies?

 

No kidding. He might as well just say...

"Don't be held back by an unwanted pregnancy. Just get rid of it."

Very un-cool.

Hey, Planned Parenthood gives out BC Pills for free. There's pretty much no excuse to get pregnant if you don't want to.

 

I agree. What happened to people being responsible for their actions?

 

When are you going to grow up and realize when most abortions are preformed, sex hasn't been determined yet. No girl or woman should be forced to carry, especially if they're raped.

 

I know a lady who is the product of a rape. I bet you she would disagree. And thats bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Gender can be determined pretty early if they take the time to do that. They just don't do it because they might actually like to start that thing that "isn't alive" inside of them. You ask any REGULAR pregnant woman they will definitely say their baby is alive.

 

oh good lort....so you think this woman will 'suffer' if she gives up the baby...but has no qualms in KILLING it?

okkkkaaay..just when I think you can't get more bizarre..

it doesnt' cost a PENNY to keep HIS penis out of YOUR panties...

see? simple, cheap, moral...works every time it tried.

 

What? The SAME Planned Parenthood that everyone on the right has been bagging for doing abortions?

 

That's right. Women suffer lifelong emotional trauma from giving up a child for adoption, but for the most part, they only feel relief after abortions. Guess they get attached to a baby after nine months of being attached.

Sometimes people try and fail....

 

That is the most ignorant thing I have seen here in months. The sex is determined at conception idiot!

 

It was her choice to have sex and take the risk. She is the one who decided that if the birth control failed…she could get pregnant and had sex anyway. She is the one who decided that …the risk she took could likely make her pregnant…that a new life could be conceived. SHE ENSLAVED HERSELF….she took the risk and should have to stand up and take responsibility for this separate life she that her risk…ended up starting.

Wow….ok…..a life is worth less than nine months of schooling. LOL

Of course you would say that….LOL Killing is your only option. Who says she would have to quit? I worked the entire pregnancy as most women do. So because she might be pregnant means that…she can't read or write? LOL
And ya know I think if at the time of birth a woman went to the college or university and told them the situation…they would help. She could take an incomplete….it happens all the time. It can be done…pregnancy is not the end of the world.

You know you say that women suffer if they give up their babies…yet you deny that women don't suffer from abortion as well. Killing believe me is a worse kind of suffering…and that you just can't see.

It is for the most part very very cheap…and one can get free condoms many places. How much is an abortion? I would say this is a very expensive birth control wouldn't you? I am not going to support a place that kills unborn children…who trains their workers to allow underaged girls…access to abortion…who does illegal things…and anybody who has looked at the evidence on the table can see that PP has abused the system in many ways and more than once. Lets see……selling body parts, counseling and not reporting rapes….the list goes on and on.
PP is not just about birth control……..its about killing as birth control and many people do not want that as an option. I want every clinic in this country shut down and slowly…they are doing that. There are other places women can get health care…PP is not the only place.

 

It was her choice to have sex and take the risk. She is the one who decided that if the birth control failed…she could get pregnant and had sex anyway. She is the one who decided that …the risk she took could likely make her pregnant…that a new life could be conceived. SHE ENSLAVED HERSELF….she took the risk and should have to stand up and take responsibility for this separate life she that her risk…ended up starting.

Wow….ok…..a life is worth less than nine months of schooling. LOL

Of course you would say that….LOL Killing is your only option. Who says she would have to quit? I worked the entire pregnancy as most women do. So because she might be pregnant means that…she can't read or write? LOL
And ya know I think if at the time of birth a woman went to the college or university and told them the situation…they would help. She could take an incomplete….it happens all the time. It can be done…pregnancy is not the end of the world.

You know you say that women suffer if they give up their babies…yet you deny that women don't suffer from abortion as well. Killing believe me is a worse kind of suffering…and that you just can't see.

It is for the most part very very cheap…and one can get free condoms many places. How much is an abortion? I would say this is a very expensive birth control wouldn't you? I am not going to support a place that kills unborn children…who trains their workers to allow underaged girls…access to abortion…who does illegal things…and anybody who has looked at the evidence on the table can see that PP has abused the system in many ways and more than once. Lets see……selling body parts, counseling and not reporting rapes….the list goes on and on.
PP is not just about birth control……..its about killing as birth control and many people do not want that as an option. I want every clinic in this country shut down and slowly…they are doing that. There are other places women can get health care…PP is not the only place.

 

is it just me but are others having trouble posting the first time….?

I am trying to get used to this new computer and don't know if its the computer or the site that is slow….

Sorry for the double post….

 

And let me tell your from experience that killing through abortion also is emotional and can create scars that never go away. It is always with you…you can't escape it. Many people try to find their mother and father…or their child. Abortion…is a decision that is irreversible..you can't go back. You killed…took a life. Every time you see a child…an ad for anything birth related…you think about what you did and the child you wish you had. You think that is easy grannie? If you think that the majority of women don't regret their abortions…then you don't know anything.

Killing is never an answer….abortion should be illegal.

 

No, it's the website. This is a known problem that this website has had for years.

 

She's right. The vast majority of women don't regret their abortion, though they often regret it was necessary in the first place.

They made the right choice for them, and even if it happened to be the wrong choice for some of them, then that's life.

Abortion should not be illegal because you, yourself, regret doing it.

You made your own choice.

You had that right.

 

Look it is not and repeating the same nonsense only makes you look foolish.

So you are not pro-life, but arguing only your perceived technicality?

Because you do not like it or understand it?

It did not create any laws. Your civics knowledge is abysmal.

 

Yea, seriously, you are clueless.

You do not understand the first thing about the Constitution, so you are hardly the one to dictate how to follow it.

Neither does it mention walking down the street, your point?

No that is not it, quite the opposite, the Supreme Court did not make any laws and THAT IS IT.

 

Look, copying and pasting does not amount to understanding it. I suggest you ask someone to explain it to you.

It is called viability and it is significant. I suggest you have that too explained to you.

Clearly biology also eludes you. The concept of independent living is not one to live without the help of some other person but rather having that capacity to sustain with one's own organs and their functions.

So that is your beef, you want to kill babies? Now that IS sick.

 

This is just punishment thinking. BLAME the woman for getting pregnant, SHE made the choice to have sex, so she DESERVES to be punished. You admit that the pregnancy is an "enslavement", you said "SHE ENSLAVED HERSELF", so you admit this.

An unwanted life is worth nothing.

Lucky you. Not all women can do that, some have health issues requiring bed rest. Some women have jobs that are physically demanding which could not be done during advanced pregnancy. So some women would be losing their jobs at a time when they needed them most. Some scholarships cannot be postponed, it is now or never.

Many STUDIES show that women just feel relief after an abortion. NO study shows that more women suffer emotionally from abortion. I'm going to guess that ANY woman who is feeling guilt after an abortion, is feeling it directly because of people like you, who are in their faces telling them they SHOULD feel guilt.

No, the evidence is that Planned Parenthood has been maligned, maligned by right-wingers who "edited" those videos to say just what they wanted.

You're just not thinking. Planned Parenthood prevents far more abortions than they perform. It is true that women can get health care in other places, but it will cost more. PP gets prices down because of the volume of patients they serve. And, if by some fluke, PP IS shut down, other organizations will pop up to provide abortions as well.

 

It isn;t a significant argument to say that a fetus isn't alive because it is dependent. There are many organisms in society that depend on others to help sustain them, and science still considers them alive. Basically what you are saying is that a fetus is in the same group as a virus. Similar to living, but not truly alive. That is what you TRULY believe? Pregnancy and childbirth are beautiful things and this idea of abortion is just unnatural. do you see other animals intentionally killing their babies to get out of having to raise it? No. Humans are ABOVE animals in intellect, yet we think killing an unborn baby is perfectly ok? Where is the logic?

 

No one made that argument so your straw man is not scoring any points.

You are diverting into the inane territory.

I said nothing of the sort and if that is what you understood, then you have serious reading comprehension issues.

Yet nature aborts more than women.

You should watch the Discovery Cannel once in a while.

 

So your argument is simply to say all of my arguments are wrong? Good one. Let me explain a little more. I wasn't necessarily calling you out on what you say, just what general pro-murderers think. That a fetus isn't alive. Well it is obviously more than just atoms, so that would basically equate it to a virus, which the scientific community doesn't consider alive, etc. Again I will point out a simple fact- these "natural abortions" as you think to call them is not something we can currently control to any degree. Of course most people would understand that to 'abort' has certain intentional connotations, but I digress... I love animals. I have never seen a monkey doctor pull a fetus out of a female monkey before. Sure they do crazy things, but that's why we call them animals. Humans aren't supposed to succumb to the same hormonal instincts as wild animals. I just do not understand how a civilized society can be ok with simply aborting this tiny life that will eventually become our future.

 

Yes, is why intersex people have female and male genitals. It was just decided they'd be born totally (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up.