Obama Gives Final "No" To Keystone XL

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    It’s been seven years in the making but the Keystone XL pipeline is now dead.

    Or is it? Big Oil’s Republican lap dogs in Congress have been fighting for those same seven years to see that pipeline gets built, and like repealing Obamacare, the Congressional Republicans aren’t going to give up.

    The situation is awkward for many farmers in the path of the projected pipeline. Most are staunch conservatives and neoconservatives, and therefore are obligated to oppose everything supported by Obama and the Democrats. So, even though their own land and livelihoods could be permanently ruined by an accidental oil spill, they must remain firmly behind getting the Keystone bill passed.

    This is another example, of many, of how the demands of conservatism forces right-wingers to vote the complete opposite of their own best interests.

    http://news.yahoo.com/ap-sources-ob...-keystone-xl-pipeline-160930718--finance.html


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    I'm glad the President did not approve of the Keystone XL Pipeline.
     
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    TransCanada cancelled their application because Keystone becomes a loser for their stockholders at the current ppb.
     
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    Amen. It's a good step.

    With current low prices, I think it will be hard for oil companies to once again plan to go after expensive and horribly dirty tar sands oil.

    And, sooner or later, the US is going to wake up to climate change.
     
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    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess you must have your own 'magic fuel'.....Most of US don't. We have to rely on petroleum. Obama just screwed every American.
     
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    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No it's Big Government's Libbie Enviro-fraud lap dogs that have a duty to exact pain on the American public in order to force US to pay more and more for the energy fuels we use. You do realize that YOUR Tax dollars are going into an 'environmental' black hole? There is NO alternative fuel available yet, Obama is dead-set on RAISING fuel prices and limiting our ability to not only produce more, refine more but NOW we can't even build a PIPELINE!!!!

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    Yeah PAID whistleblowers.
     
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    Do you realize the US oil business is FOR PROFIT.. When the ppb gets too low domestic producers can't compete.. and we have the highest lift costs in the world.
     
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    Yes they do have a decent safety record...That's leftist-libbie BS

    http://www.energyeastpipeline.com/transcanada-corrects-misinformation-about-pipeline-safety/

    As safety is an essential part of everything we do, we will subject the Mainline pipeline to a thorough cleaning and inspections with high-resolution tools to identify potential issues. Once its integrity has been re-assessed, we will install electronic leak-detection systems that allow TransCanada to monitor pipeline operations 24 hours a day, seven days a week, from its high-tech control centre in Calgary. - See more at: http://www.energyeastpipeline.com/t...n-about-pipeline-safety/#sthash.1I72CzRl.dpuf

    http://www.energyeastpipeline.com/transcanada-corrects-misinformation-about-pipeline-safety/

    What to you want them to do? Give you a 100% guarantee that nothing will happen over the course of decades? You can't even get that with your car. Any spills on the pipline can be cleaned up quickly. What is the matter with some of you people? Still waiting for that 'magic fuel' that is available everywhere, emits no CO2 and is standard in every vehicle? In the meantime.....Just SCREW the rest of US? Well screw you.
     
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    Its been over 3 years now.. Have they cleaned up the Yellowstone River yet?

    TransCanada takes shortcuts on construction.
     
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    Pipelines carrying oil products or hazardous liquids cross inland waters at least 100 feet wide at 5,110 places nationwide, the suit said. It said the pipeline agency has identified 20 accidents at inland water crossings between 1991 and 2012. Two spills in recent years have sent more than 100,000 gallons of oil into the Yellowstone River. In Michigan, a ruptured pipeline in 2010 released 840,000 gallons into the Kalamazoo River and a creek.

    The wildlife federation and other environmental groups also have warned of risks from twin pipelines running beneath the Straits of Mackinac, the nearly 5-mile-wide waterway linking Lakes Huron and Michigan. Enbridge Energy Partners LP, which operates the 62-year-old lines, has said they are inspected regularly and pose no threat.

    "The oil pipeline industry's track record of spills, accidents and disasters underscores the need for iron-clad protections," said Mike Shriberg, executive director of the federation's Great Lakes Regional Center.

    http://www.sltrib.com/home/3044546-155/suit-wants-plans-mandated-for-big
     
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    We have the highest environmental 'lift' costs because of libbies peeing all over themselves and the prospect of fracking. We also have vast natural gas reserves. Why don't libbe environmentalists DEMAND that Obama (their god and saviour) DO SOMETHING? Like write an executive order demand all federal vehicles run on the most abundant domestic fuel....Natural gas. Which BTW would result in 50% less CO2 (for the GW religious out there).
     
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    You right-wingers certainly fear the truth.

    Think Keystone will create long term jobs? No, it will NOT.

    Think the farmland used in the route of the pipeline is not in danger? Wrong, oil spills are not beneficial to fertile ground, despite everything conservatives and neoconservatives have been made to believe.

    Think TransCanada will compensate adequately for any long-term damage their pipeline causes? That is too silly to even consider, it is the reason the oil company has corporate lawyers on staff.

    It is right wing naiveté or their complete ignorance that has them believing the lies told by the fat cats.

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    Um...no, they didn't cancel their application. Where did that come from? What Trans Canada requested was a "delay", that the US State Dept. pause its review of the project - with the goal of delaying a decision until hopefully a Republican would win the White House. This request was denied by the US government.
     
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    They'll be back when the ppb picks up.. Canadians won't let them foul the pristine forests of Canada.
     
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    Yeah so...show me proof of any mass total exterminations spills. Hey...Do you know China is polluting the Earth because greenie fools want solar panels? Instead of shutting down pipelines, why don't you libbie greenies show US your 'magic fuel?' We're out here paying your uber inflated prices for fuel because you say it is 'bad' for the environment yet you withhold the 'good' affordable fuel? Come on.....give US a break!!!

    Your link is all about oil spill response plans and the NWF (national wildlife federation) suing the DOT (Department of transportation) for 'failing' to issue regulations on 'crafting' spill strategies.

    In other words folks, the government and the EPA want the pipeline to adhere to spill standards. But then there is this...

    The wildlife federation, which filed suit in U.S. District Court in Detroit, said those steps don't address what happens after pipeline incidents occur. The Oil Pollution Act requires plans that make sure pipeline operators have enough resources available to remove as much oil as possible during a "worst case" spill and limit damage to public health and the environment, including fish, wildlife, shorelines and beaches.

    But the department has yet to approve any such plans, the suit said. It asks the court to set a schedule for them to be submitted and reviewed, and to order the department to issue necessary regulations.



    What a bunch of environmental baloney. This is nothing but government agencies vying for punishment money for a 'crime' that hasn't even been defined yet.

    http://www.energyeastpipeline.com/transcanada-corrects-misinformation-about-pipeline-safety/
     
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    Yeah, another libbie BISS....(because I say so)....Talk about ignorant and full of oneself.
     
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    Water samples have been taken along the river at the site of the release and select points downstream. Sediment and surface water sampling at the irrigation intake located approximately 17 miles downstream of Glendive has been conducted at the request of the Lower Yellowstone Irrigation District. There has been no visual or other evidence of crude oil at the intake's irrigation structures. There was some light oil staining at the I-94 bridge that was cleaned up. Additional sediment sampling will take place.

    Ten groundwater wells have also been sampled. The wells were selected due to their shallow depth and vicinity to the break. Results for all ten wells sampled were non-detect for VOCs.

    http://www.deq.mt.gov/yellowstonespill2015.mcpx

    Your B.S. is duly noted.
     
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    So what? There are spills all over the world. That's the nature of transporting the stuff. Come up with a BETTER fuel otherwise, stop trying to raise MY fuel costs and punishing US working folks. After all, WE are the ones that PAY taxes for this environmental circus.
     
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    Gee, you must be living on another planet, because....

    Whadda ya want..4 cents a gallon?
     
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    It was $1.94 per gallon in Atl yesterday.
     
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    I suppose some people think that having the Keystone pipeline will bring their gas prices back to the level of the 1930's.
     

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