"Obamacare"

You folks who are so against national health care in the United States are keeping your country in the third world. You are the only western country (and probably one of the few eastern contries) that does not have a national healthcare system. For that matter you are one of the very few countries in the world that retains the death penalty.

 

Yes and we are one of the only countries left that tells people to rely on themselves for responsibility and not the State. We believe that as long as opportunities are available that people will rise to the occasion and make more of themselves instead of being handed everything.

Those that don't make it will be summarily put to death as they do not contribute to society.

You see, its this attitude that allowed us to kick your ass in the revolution. You were assuming that people could not be individuals and would simply do what you told them. You were wrong then and your wrong now.

Go drink some tea.

 

Execute the unemployed? Execute the disabled? Execute the pensioners?

 

I can call up my doctor right now and set up an appointment for later today or early tomorrow. Can you do that in England? What's the wait time, now... 2 weeks? Down from 3-4? Why do Canadian citizens travel to the US for life saving surgeries? Could it be because their doctors are not as good? Competition leads to better equipped people. Socialism leads to laziness and ineptitude.

 

On the other hand, Canada's prescription drugs are much cheaper than those found in the United States, mainly due to a less arduous patent process.

 

You're right. It's too hard for entrepreneurs to patent their inventions. It should be an easier process, but that's what we have in our heavily regulated society.

 

So your logic is that if other people are doing it, it's ok. Well I'm sure happy they aren't jumping off bridges! We are Americans. We like to pay our own way. It's a feeling of independence.

 

Excuse me, but there are plenty of Americans (like myself) that disagree with you.

 

Yes, but patent laws shouldn't last forever when it comes to things such as life-saving/pain-saving drugs because that leads to artificial scarcity of said drugs which leads to violence on the streets between people competing for artificially scarce drugs. Capitalism only works if it does not rely on artificial scarcity. In other words, free-market geoism with enforced but limited patent laws.

Patent laws can lead to unjust monopolies if they last forever, but they also are necessary if people are to be encouraged to innovate.

 

Oh I'll excuse you. I excuse my children all the time. They however will grow up. You haven't it appears, or else you like people to hand things to you for no other reason than you are alive. You feel entitled...how special.

 

People do need to pay their own way. That's only just. Except when corporatism that The Right Wing loves so much, causes artificial scarcity and low job opportunities and opportunities in general.

 

I do not feel entitled and I do not want handouts, nor do I want to give handouts. I am, however, a proud socialist, and disagree with your total faith to capitalism and sh!tty healthcare.

 

It's not paying their own way I disagree with, it's the rabid devotion to god-like capitalism and corporatism I disagree with.

 

Low job opportunities don't come from the bowels of the corporate world, it comes from the buying public. When the public cuts back on spending the companies don't make as much and can't hire new workers. It's called a bad economy. To blame corporation for not hiring and running themselves into the ground is arrogant as well as dumb. It's all about adding and subtracting. Maybe you missed those classes in school.

 

Corporations have literally TRILLIONS of dollars (useless fiat currency; on a side note we need to stop inflation..refer to the thread I just made) that they refuse to invest and are quite simply hoarding it. They are greedy dickhead (*)(*)(*)(*)s. Wealth is in most situations not like a "pie", but when it comes to absolute meglomaniacal greed that is occuring both in the public and corporate sector, then yes, one person getting more wealthy can result in millions of others losing not just getting less wealthy, but going broke.

 

Except of course that every day corporations seek out (and often find) ways to hire fewer people, get more work done, and make more money.

They are not gods that care about your well-being, Walker.

 

Well, I have to disagree with the idea that corporations somehow want to find ways to get more work done; they want to find ways to get as LITTLE work done as possible. They do want to hire as few people as possible, I agree with that, but as long as this is all done via geo-libertarianism then it is IMHO all in the interest of the "greater good".

Not that I give a flying (*)(*)(*)(*) about the greater good of humanity, because people at their core suck and I want the human race to fail, but only AFTER I'm gone.

 

Canada price-controls drugs, and subsidizes drug costs.

 

I think that is what we use to call tough noogies when in kindergarten. You have money in the bank. No one is forcing you to spend it, but you want to force them to do with their money what you want. How arrogant.

 

yeah and IMO that's every bit as destructive as price-controlling drugs via overly long-lived/extensive patent laws. If I invent something I want a patent on it so that my innovation is protected, but I'd want that patent to end after a few years when I make a sizeable profit on it. If I've got a certification that says no one can copy my invention or even make an invention even remotely similar (because that's side-stepping and defeating the purpose of anti-copy-cat laws), and it's actually a useful invention, investors will flood my cell and email with money. I simply am allowed a cut of the profits resulting, for a few years.

Qualitatively speaking that is the general solution I have for the whole I.P. issue.

 

Never thought they were Gods. But I never expected the government to give me a rose garden either. Making a profit is what business is all about. Only the government is there to lose money and they do a great job doing just that.

 

So you think corporations would somehow be anywhere near as profitable without inflation and regulations on businesses which destroy small businesses, but help bigger businesses (due to the fact that the smaller businesses are no longer there to compete against the larger ones)? You think that a real free market ala Ron Paul would actually resemble your Repub hack corporatism?

 

Stop trying to pose as a libertarian, you're a Repub hack.

 

I don't expect the government to give me a rose garden either. I expect the people to use the government like you would use a hammer: as a tool, with YOU the Master.

 

And want more work for less pay and less benefits.