Obama's First Ad: "Secretive Oil Billionaires" Are Attacking Me...

I am all for alternatives, but I am also for using what is tried and true until the alternatives natuarlly become more feasible and viable at an economic level that can be sustainable.

They better not be thinking about using my Bourbon Whiskey for fuel. Now, that would be getting personal!

 

That is why I showed the local CBS coverage

 

What you mean to say is, whenever Big Government and Big Fossil Fuel allow alternatives to become dominant.

Weed's better

 

Very clear propaganda (that always does the opposite of what is needed)
They let the people believe windturbines and solarpanels are clean and green, but they are very inefficient, windturbines cost more than they generate, solarpanels wear out to soon (and what will the world do with the billions of panels? Recyling of these old panels cost lots of energy again)
The logic is turned upside down (because this ideology is antagonistic in nature) Obama and the presidential candidates and other politicians should call for more e.g. geothermical and tidal energy instead (Iran needs it too to solve that nuclear conflict), because these two unknown are completely boycotted by the system (ofcourse, because oil is the main energy (the energy fundament) of this super capitalism)

 

Lmao are you seriously trying to contend that the US gov is so all powerful that it can just legislate scienced fiction into reality by fiat? Lmao

 

There is no conspiracy by oil companies to hide or discredit renewable enegy. That is an outright lie.

 

The government gives us corn ethanol so now many foods are also higher. You should not use a food source for a fuel source

 

Companies focus on where they can make money. The only way for alternatives to be viable is if they are widely available and widely used.

 

I agree. That is also why water will not be used either.

 

Well hey when gas gets to 100 bucks a gallon, you come crying to..someone who cares.

 

The government and oil corporations are in bed with each other. But your claim isn't what I said, is it?

 

That's why you create your own alcohol using a still, Einstein. Yes, it's possible and yes many people do that. It just requires you to get off politicalforum.com and go do it.

 

yeah and until Big Car begins to produce cars that run on alcohol, I won't be able to use my still to make fuel for it. At best I could get one for E85.

 

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It reminds me very much of this old bag of nuts!​

 

Not to mention the taxpayers are subsidizing that corn shine to the tune of $.45 cents a gallon.

 

yeah because the only way to make alcohol is via corn. You can't just grow things in your basement and use a still to produce alcohol.

I'd love it if Big Car produced vehicles that could run on pure alcohol, the kind of alcohol that you can make at your own home. But no, they're too much in bed with Big Oil for that to happen.

And further (*)(*)(*)(*)ing yet, I wish Big Car and Big Fossil Fuel weren't so in bed with Big Government, that Big Government FORCES you to buy car insurance, and FORCES you to ONLY drive certain "authorized" vehicles. If it weren't for those two things, I'd soon weld together my own cheap ass vehicle that I was comfortable financially with.

 

OMG LMAO!!!

Give a spew alert before you do that again, please.

 

Obama should have been a magician..."see my left hand, good (now they can't see what my right hand is doing)".

 

No I save my motor and use ethanol free gas

 

yeah and pay 4 bucks to drive 20 miles. whoooo.

 

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/new-cars/news/ethanol/overview/index.htm


Putting E85 to the test

To better judge ethanol's strengths and weaknesses, we decided to buy a flex-fuel vehicle (FFV) and put E85 to the test. E85 is an ethanol mixture promoted as an alternative to gasoline.

We put our 2007 Chevrolet Tahoe FFV through our full series of fuel-economy and acceleration tests while running on each fuel (see our test results). When running on E85 there was no significant change in acceleration. Fuel economy, however, dropped across the board. In highway driving, gas mileage decreased from 21 to 15 mpg; in city driving, it dropped from 9 to 7 mpg. You could expect a similar decrease in gas mileage in any current FFV.

 

uhhh...so before I outright call you what you are intellectually, I want to make sure that you and the people who wrote that article are saying what I think y'all are saying.

You guys are saying that they tested one car, and used two different fuels for it, and then compared the gas mileage for it? And then left out a hugely important, obvious detail?

OK:

1. DIFFERENT CARS ARE BUILT FOR DIFFERENT KINDS OF FUEL!!!! That might have been a "flex fuel" vehicle, but depending on how you design an engine, some cars might be less efficient and some might be more efficient on alcohol than gasoline. And,

2. Even if alcohol did carry a car less miles per gallon, guess what, Einstein? YOU CAN MAKE ALCOHOL IN YOUR OWN HOME AND/OR YARD BY GROWING PLANTS AND THEN HAVING THEM FERMENT AND USING A STILL THAT YOU CAN OPERATE IN YOUR OWN HOME!!! Can you do that for gasoline? Do you really have oil reserves in your yard as well as petroleum refiners in your house? NO YOU (*)(*)(*)(*)ING DON'T, EINSTEIN!!

Is that perfectly clear now? Was I loud enough for your deaf (*)(*)(*)(*)ing ears to hear me???!?!

 

I was adding information to the thread. I see it threatened your position by your urgent need to rant.

Hey Genius how are people living in a city going to have the LAND to GROW the PLANTS to FUEL their CARS. < Figured i would post like you to ease your mind>

 

Post as angrily if you want. If you are actually that angry, it'll let me know and I'll know how to react.

And first of all I've been a long time advocate of "vertical farming", but I don't think that it's a good idea for the planet to be so overpopulated that it lacks farmland anyways.

 

There isnt enough farmland for the population so you advocate using more farmland to fuel our cars?