Obama's Indefinite Detentions OK'd by Judge

Obama fights for and regains:

Obama's Indefinite Detentions OK'd by Judge

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Sadness....

 

This is very sad for anyone who believes in individual liberty. It's another nail in the regime's coffin as far as I'm concerned.

 

The Supreme Court will probably rule in favor of this power which is the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist.

 

If the Supreme Court rules in favor of this, I'm moving. Pretty much everyone should at that point.

 

I noticed that not even the far right is defending this legislation. I guess even they have limits. Ironically, most of the apolagists for it are people that claim to be progressive. Obama supporters either defend it or pretend it doesnt exist. Apolagists like Stephanie Miller are the worst of them.

 

No.

Stay and fight.

It's your country.

 

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I well and truly cannot understand anyone who is defending this, but especially those on the left. A major part of why Obama came in was the rage against Gitmo; Obama campaigned against it. Now, he's for it, and some of his supporters are cheering this.

Mind-boggling.

 

I do.

They are morally bankrupt but I 'understand' them.

And this is nothing yet.

And it won't matter which way you vote.

 

Has anyone had a blue or red dot on their mailbox then...



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I like the mailbox dot conspiracy. That's the first time I'd heard that one.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aIXPky36s.lI

Mailbox Dots

One young conspiracy believer -- an Iraq War opponent who says the media hasn’t given the conflict enough coverage -- gets sympathetic treatment. His segment includes horrifying night- vision footage of soldiers machine-gunning three possible terrorists; the bursts reduce the bodies to small piles of rubble.

On a far lighter note, we see Jones crooning along with a Jerry Reed song and delivering an amusing analysis of the Washington Monument, which he calls a “giant power talisman” for those ever-plotting elitists out to take over the world.

McLamb, by the way, explains that the red and blue dots on some mailboxes (generally believed to have been put there by mail or newspaper carriers) are actually government markings to indicate status on a hit list.

He says red dots mean “they take you out immediately and shoot you in head,” while blue dots mean you are sent off to a Halliburton camp. God only knows what green dots signify.

(Dave Shiflett is a critic for Bloomberg News. The opinions expressed are his own.)

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http://www.ehow.com/info_8738272_colored-dots-mailbox.html

What Are the Colored Dots on the Mailbox For?

People go out to their mailboxes on some days and discover nickel-sized dots on them. Do a search on the Internet and you will quickly discover a conspiracy theory that the dots are there to mark who needs to be rounded up and killed or put in a concentration camp for re-education in case martial law is declared. The truth should be a relief to most people.

Not the Postal Service

Greg Frey, a U.S. Postal Service spokesman, said there is no national postal policy that explains the dots. The boxes belong to the property owner, as does the post below it. There are, however, strict rules about what can go inside the boxes, he said. What goes outside can really only become an issue if the decoration or paint scheme causes a delivery problem.

Most Likely Answer: Newspaper Delivery

The Huntsville Times in Alabama responded to this article's question in 2007, saying that the dots on mailboxes were applied there by the company's circulation department. Since most newspaper delivery is done in the early morning hours, seeing the reflective dots can help remind deliverers when a customer gets the paper or if special sections should be inserted. There are a number of companies that sell an item called Hot Dots, specifically marketed to newspaper companies.
Emergency Notice

A "Rotarian" magazine article in 1982 told of a Rotary Club effort to place stickers on the mailboxes of people participating in a postal alert program. If too much mail backed up, people in the know were to check on the resident in case there was a problem.
Fundraisers

Another explanation is that service organizations will sometimes go door-to-door to raise funds for a program and mark the mailboxes of homes they solicited.

 

Please dont associate this thread with Alex Jones influenced hysterical garbage, independant of any credible evidence, as is typical.

 

Chill out - I don't really think murderers would put labels on your property, to mark you out for death. Or unlimited detention. They will just do what they like, when they like. It's been gradual, but you must have noticed, yes? You must have felt that *something* was not right, for at least some years, yes? Despite the relentless media narrative, that doesn't seem to relate to reality, you must still have felt that *something* just wasn't right, that maybe your state had gone rogue, yes? That it wouldn't matter who you voted for, as both sides are on the same side, and that side ain't you.

The war on terror was a lie, it was all just Holywood style fluff.

The invasion of Iraq, was all based on lies.

Their reasons to detain, torture, and occupy, were all based on lies.

The Patriot Act was fast tracked through, and the timed it so that the mass would not bother to consider it. What % of the people today do you think know their way around all of it, or do they just sit and hope that it will all be okay, and that such legislation would never be used against them and theirs? Alex Jones btw, he is not worth a thing. He is a disinformation agent. There will be some crumbs of truth in what he says, some half truth, and some psy op stuff. I know who he is married to, and who his legal team are, and who owns the channel that he broadscasts from.

Basically, to cut a long story short, the US was infiltrated at every level, some decades ago. They then create a whole plethora of other bodies and organisations, like Council on Foreign Relations, Dept of Homeland Sec, etc etc, and filled the key positions up, with those that served not the interests of Americans, but of a minority. Because it was infiltrated by those that do not care about the US constitiution, or US history, or American people, let alone anyone else, they have worked, conspired, and done everything they can, to chip away at said constitution, the civil liberties of Americans.

You are effectively Governed by men who hate Americans and America.

They see you as being of use, as a cash cow, and to work and pay tax, and to obey their never ending laws.

 

Well, Stu, you know as well as I do that Obama would say anything to get elected.

As for his supporters...

 

Yeah I think I need to check with some Chinese contacts about a job over there. And house pets do not taste that bad.

 

The far right hasn't, but Romney has said that he would've signed the NDAA detention clause into law had he been president then.

 

I'm not really interested in dying or being indefinitely detained. I'd fight if I thought it would do any good, but at this point, I don't think it would.

The only thing we have left to defend against this kind of stuff is the Court. If they fail us on this one, then all hope is lost, short of a revolution.

And I'm not really interested in having to deal with one of those....

 

I was thinking more like Canada, Australia, or Ireland.

 

Yes he would, and yes they are.

As are the other side.

That is the point.

Both sides are being divided by men, who only have the interests of the few, at heart.

 

So.

Rather than stand with your countrymen, and defend that which belongs to you all, you would rather run, and leave others to die trying?

 

I prefer China. No BS about it. You know they will kill you and your freedoms are limited unlike the US where we live in a lie.

 

Anyone who supports such an act as indefinite detection of American citizens, is a traitor. It's as simple as that.

 

It's easy to say you would stay and die fighting. Most people, when faced with something like that, wouldn't.

The only difference between me and them is that I admit it.

I don't pretend to be a weekend revolutionary. I'm too practical for that. The world is a big place, and America isn't the only option for long term living in a free society.

So yes, I would leave. I wouldn't like having to leave the people I know behind, but if it means increasing my chances of survival, I'd do it.

America itself has largely grown from similar impulses. We take in thousands of refugees every year -- people who left their countries behind in order to escape war or oppression.

If fate ironically made it so that Americans had to do the same, I don't see any shame in that.

 

Jack the people in this country want their hand held and they want everything given to them. Why should we who want a life of freedom stand up for them? Jack freedom is an illusion in the US. I would rather live under a totalitarian dictatorship where I know where I stand.