October 28, 2016, the FBI director reopens investigation of the Democratic Presidential candidate

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  1. Sandy Shanks

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    It is eleven days before the 2020 Presidential election. At this point, four years ago, FBI director James Comey reopened the investigation of Hillary Clinton, the Democratic candidate for the Presidency of the United States.

    FiveThirtyEight reports, "Hillary Clinton would probably be president if FBI Director James Comey had not sent a letter to Congress on Oct. 28. The letter, which said the FBI had “learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation” into the private email server that Clinton used as secretary of state, upended the news cycle and soon halved Clinton’s lead in the polls, imperiling her position in the Electoral College."

    Two days before the election, Comey issued a contrite "sorry about that" and closed the investigation for lack of anything new.

    It was too late.

    Eleven days before the 2016 election, most polling averages showed Clinton ahead by six to eight percentage points in national polls. A week later, her lead had declined to three points.

    The Times reports that Trump won in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by less than 80,000 votes, winning each state by less than 0.8 percentage points and handing him the Presidency.

    The Times also reported, "Late-deciding voters broke overwhelmingly for Trump, the exit polls showed, and the Comey letter and its disclosure of new information in the email investigation was a significant part of the news coverage over the last week of the election."

    This year there is no Comey, and Joe Biden is not being investigated by anybody for anything.

    Contrast that with Trump who has been the subject of countless investigations, was impeached but vindicated by the GOP Senate, and is currently under investigation for tax fraud by the federal prosecutor in New York.
     
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    On October 31 2016 right before the election we also learned the FBI was investigating Trump


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ny...ics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.amp.html


    Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia
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    President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia after a meeting in October about Ukraine and Syria.Credit...Klaus-Dietmar Gabbert/European Pressphoto Agency



    By Eric Lichtblau and Steven Lee Myers



    • Oct. 31, 2016

    WASHINGTON — For much of the summer, the F.B.I. pursued a widening investigation into a Russian role in the American presidential campaign. Agents scrutinized advisers close to Donald J. Trump, looked for financial connections with Russian financial figures, searched for those involved in hacking the computers of Democrats, and even chased a lead — which they ultimately came to doubt — about a possible secret channel of email communication from the Trump Organization to a Russian bank.
     
  3. Sandy Shanks

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    A significant number of Democratic voters are solely responsible for Trump's election victory.

    Young Sanders supporters were aggrieved that their candidate didn't get the nomination, and, in their anger and disappointment, they managed to elect Trump.

    Newsweek reports, "According to the analysis of the 2016 Cooperative Congressional Election Survey, fewer than 80 percent of those who voted for Sanders in the Democratic primary did the same for Clinton when she faced off against Trump a few months later. What's more, 12 percent of those who backed Sanders actually cast a vote for Trump.

    "The impact of those votes was significant. In each of the three states that ultimately swung the election for Trump—Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania—Trump's margin of victory over Clinton was smaller than the number of Sanders voters who gave him their vote."

    In Wisconsin, 51,000 Sanders supporters voted for Trump. Trump's margin of victory was 22,000.

    In Michigan, 47,000 Sanders supporters voted for Trump. Trump's margin of victory was 10,000.

    In Pennsylvania, 116,000 Sanders supporters voted for Trump. Trump's margin of victory was 44,000.
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're right and wrong.

    Those voters did put Trump over the edge BUT
    Those numbers were baked into the polls weeks earlier.
    Comey's ...assist to Trump
    The second assist if you'll remember his presser in July
    Crushed support among those fence sitters who had not voted
    People who would never vote Trump but were shaky on Clinton
    Just didn't vote.
    When you get right down to it the disaster of the last four years
    Rests right on comey's shoulders.
     
  5. Kal'Stang

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    OH look, another thread that blames Hillary's loss on everyone but the one actually responsible. Hillary.

    Hillary lost because she was lackadaisical in her campaign. She didn't even hold rally's in the swing states. She was so sure she was going to win that she didn't even try.
     
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    A major reason why Trump won is because the Democratic Party nominated the worst possible candidate.

    That is not true in 2020. Trump's inane, unsubstantiated rhetoric about Biden aside, the Democratic candidate is seen as a kind and gentle man with 47 unblemished years in Washington politics. Just the kind of man we need to work with both parties to get things done.

    Americans have had it with electing a novice for President. We have done it for the past 30 years!

    Look at the result. We are a sharply divided country with a President loyal to the Russian dictator. He is so bad his supporters avoid him. They prefer talking about Democrats.
     
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    Ah noo, hillary lost because of the EC and she lost that because PEOPLE didn't vote for her.
     
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    We didn't elect the candidate with ties to the Kremlin. She lost in an electoral college landslide. For you to continue your temper tantrum says more about you than the candidate that beat Obama, Biden, their corrupt FBI, their corrupt CIA, and their corrupt diplomat corps, and the Russian spy Hillary enlisted.
     
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