Ohio voters reject measure aimed at blocking abortion rights amendment

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You keep quoting the "Sermon on the Mout" as if that makes you a member of some kind of "club"..... but I would have you note one thing:

    Jesus did not gather the rulers of Rome, or even the rulers of Israel and Judah and direct these rulers to impress these precepts upon their citizens. He could have done that. He didn't and they hated him for it. Jesus was followed by individuals of their own free will. They were drawn to Him. The Sermon on the Mount was for them to individually accept and obey. Not as an edict from an earthly ruler.

    "After all this is a free country. I am not going to impose my religion to you." You say this with a great amount of Pious. Your "religion" IS government. You would impose your religion on every unborn child and every citizen of the "state".
     
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    We are "god", sort of. Not yours, of course, it doesn't exist, but the Source of everything is us, and we are it. The best analogy I have thought of to describe it is that we are like a cup of water taken out of the ocean, that goes on to have cup fulls of water experiences, and then we get poured back in. In this case, we individual life forms are the cups of water, and 'god' (Source or Spirit are better, more accurate terms) is the amalgamation of all the individual cups (aka, the ocean) total experiences through all of their different lives, which given our ability to create anything we like, like this planet, other planets, or this universe and other universes, is an unlimited, eternal sort of thing. We will never know everything, but maybe someday, though time is not really real as we understand it, we'll get to the point we know 'enough'? Just thinking out loud, now. Maybe not, who knows.
     
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  3. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's a new brand of fascism.... MAGA facsism.

    The GOP still does a few things that I wouldn't call fascism, but that list gets smaller every year...

    You, of course, can call this RW desired state of government what you like, but fascism is a lot easier to type repeatedly than authoritarianism or another ism...
     
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    yeah, and humans will never be able to fly either...
     
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    you completely ignored what I wrote-it is in other areas that these pro "choice" abortion rites advocates are anti choice.
     
  6. Endeavor

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    You want to impose your religious view “ abortion is mudar” to everyone. You want Government make abortion ban. You want government force a woman to have baby. You want government ban same sex marriage. Your want government to ban sex-change. It is you who want to impose your religious view on everyone with the help of government.

    And you say my religion is government?
     
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    Abortion is murder has nothing to do with religion, and everything to do with simple reality. I’m not the least bit religious, I’m just able to objectively view the world.
     
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    That’s completely incorrect, left wing propaganda at its finest. These programs already exist, and are not at all under attack by conservatives for children whom at adopted instead of murdered.
     
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  9. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    He's just not going to get it... no matter how you phrase it, or rephrase it...

    The ultra religious just don't understand how most of their attempts to govern are based in their religion...
     
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    Show me a US law that says abortion is murder.
     
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    I could link you the definition. But you already know and just incorrectly disagree.
     
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    Agreed. The eft are the most religious of the all I’m all irony. They just have a different deity.
     
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    The website you use also have a interesting stats. It is little old , from 2014 but it is interesting


    17% of abortion patients identified as mainline Protestant;

    13% of abortion patients identified as evangelical Protestant;

    24% of abortion patients identified as Catholic;

    38% reported no religious affiliation; and

    8% reported some other affiliation.

    In another word 54% women who had abortion comes from churches which teach abortion is murder. Yet their own congregation don’t listen to their teaching. Evangelicals should teach their congregation first so they practice what they preach before they teach/preach rest of the world.
     
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    Oh I am not interested in definition. Nor I am interested in your opinion. You can call abortion is murder all day long, it doesn’t mean a thing. Absolutely nothing.

    I want to know in USA which law says “ abortion is murder”.

    You don’t have to waste your time looking for it. Because no legal system in America say “ abortion is mudar” .
     
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    Good stats!

    It was the 'with feeling' part that sold me...

    :)

    P.S. Rooting for your Matilda's to beat France, but I'm not going to be betting on it...
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Really? We're coaching now? That's pretty lame, even by RW standards...

    (meh.... maybe not)
     
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    I’m aware you aren’t interested in defining things lol, that would require you to admit you are wrong.
     
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    In every abortion, two people enter the room, and one leaves.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    God laughs and says, "you want to create life? Start with materials you made!"
     
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    Nobody is celebrating death, they are celebrating the choice you just claimed was good.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Government has one main directive.....to protect innocent life. You fail. You also presume my position on government control of sexual confusion. Again you fail. Those are conditions of the human heart. You make yours apparent.
     
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    I am sure you are against the death penalty then right ?
     
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    "Tyranny of the majority is bad .... but tyranny of the minority is awesome!"
    --- conservatives

    Conservatism is based on elitism. Conservatives use elitism to justify tyranny of the minority. They think they're a class of superior humans, so they have a god-given right to rule over the lesser humans.
     
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    So then you are against the death penalty also ?
     
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    Synthetic life is not far off, they are already in the early stages.
     
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