Ok, so what do we cut?

Welfare was invented by the rich to reduce competition. Unfortunately dependency has become the major result.

 

Only a warfare-state has a use for "dependency" since a welfare-state can resort to capitalism and market friendly principles as usual and customary practice.

 

I live within spitting distance of Baghdad by the Bay. Where the amount paid for Section 8 will not even cover the rent of a cheap studio. Yet you have landlords that accept it because many times they are mandated to.

And I did not say "not rent", I said "not rent Section 8", but nice creative editing there.

In the wonderful city I live just outside of, your average studio is around $1,500, the same amount HUD caps Section 8 at. So if I have a 2 bedroom apartment, am I going to rent it for the $2,000+ I can get from the general public, or the $1,500 I get from Section 8?

DUH, no brainer, screw Section 8 when possible (but in many areas landlords are mandated to rent a certain percentage of homes as "Section 8"). You only find a high percentage of Section 8 when the housing market in an area crashes and the area is so run down, that is the only people they can find to rent them. Like many areas of the Antelope Valley. Or Inglewood, Compton, etc, etc, etc.

In places like that you find lots of Section 8 because nobody that would have to pay would want to live there.

 

Where are you getting that combined Medicare and Medicaid costs would be reduced by 300 billion a year?

 

Why does the Right insist on reducing social spending for the least wealthy, instead of our wasteful, War on Drugs?

 

Why does the left insist upon DISCRIMINATION? In other words, why not posture for everyone instead of a government-defined poor? Is that inconsistent with human rights, or is that just inconsistent with your current brainwashed-driven position?

 

From my perspective, it may be a simple lack of due diligence on the part of the electorate of the United States to become more well informed.

 

Informed of what? How many deadbeats can fit into a phone booth? Perhaps I am dated. How many deadbeats can fit into a server?

 

How about full employment of resources in our human capital markets for labor?

 

How does welfare and unemployment fit into this model, let alone workers? Human capital on a global market is rather cruel with regard to current USA wages.

 

It is about improving the efficiency of our economy through market friendly means.

 

And this is a euphemism for what type of communist or socialist policy?

 

Being moral enough to bear true witness to our own laws simply for the sake of morals and a McCarthy era phrase in our pledge.

 

I don't believe he supports late term abortion no - you on the other hand admitted that you don't care if it's a baby at that point, because the mother's imagined 'right' to her own property proceeds it's right to life.

 

Why does the Right object to spending money on better infrastructure that may render obsolete, the medical procedure of abortion in modern times?

 

You guys ever consider staying on-topic?

 

An ounce of public policy prevention is usually worth a pound of public policy cure.

 

Mushroom;

That's what I was referring too, not renting section 8, and the comment was correct, as you admitted yourself.

Correct and those landlords need the government dole to assure they keep their taxes and bills paid. In those cases section 8 is the only option, DUH!

 

Go back to the proposal. the estimate is that the proposal would save 35% over fee for service costs.

 

We need to start with military spending, obviously. I'm amazed how this isn't self-evident to everybody outside defense contractors and the politicians they fund.

 

Are you talking about this?

OK let's try again. Where are you getting that combined Medicare and Medicaid costs would be reduced by 300 billion a year?

 

No. I'm talking about a post that started with.."If you want to discuss this seriously"

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This is the post.

 

Here? it is?

 

So in other words, back to square one. I already responded to that. I thought you had some sources from an actual legitimate study.

 

Let's ditch the drug war, first.