OK....your DEAD....now what?

That's simple hold on.

LINK...https://www.dwavesys.com/our-company/customers


In late 2010 Lockheed Martin became the first D-Wave customer. Their D-Wave One system, which is the first commercially available quantum computer in the world, was installed at USC’s Information Sciences Institute so that they could explore its potential.

Continued....AA

 

This is a revolution not unlike the early days of computing. It is a transformation in the way computers are thought about.

- Ray Johnson, Lockheed Martin’s chief technical officer

In May 2013 Lockheed Martin upgraded its D-Wave One quantum computer to a 512-qubit D-Wave Two computer and planned to expand research into its potential for solving challenges ranging from designing lifesaving new drugs to instantaneously debugging millions of lines of software code.

In November 2015 upgraded its system to the 1000+ qubit D-Wave 2X quantum computer. Greg Tallant, Lockheed Martin fellow and lead for the University of Southern California-Lockheed Martin Quantum Computation Center (QCC) said "Through our continued investment in D-Wave technology, we are able to push the boundaries of quantum computing and apply the latest technologies to address the real-world problems being faced by our customers.”

 

Quarks are subatomic. Quarks have mass. Energy does not have mass.

When you conflate energy with matter you misuse words.

They are not my definitions. They are definitions from science. Dictionaries summarize definitions.

Quarks are subatomic. Quarks have mass. Energy does not have mass.

The simple truth is: Quarks are subatomic. Quarks have mass. Energy does not have mass.
The simple truth is you ignore this basic scientific fact.

Let's not stray. Your initial argument was:

That's another lie. I have never taken matter out of the equation. I stated that neurons (matter) are required for awareness. A point you conceded ...

How did energy gain self-awareness when energy has no neurons?
What does "manifest itself into physical reality" mean?

 

There can be no consciousness before or without matter - neurons. The will is a result of thought. There can be no thought without neurons. Neurons are matter. There can be no force of will in the absence of matter.

Therefore, your "FACT" is wrong...

I did not ask you how matter can be transformed into energy.
I stated:

Why must you continue to misrepresent >>>MOD EDIT Flamebait Removed<<< my comments?

 

As usual you continue to be painfully obtuse. I have long since given you an alternate way of looking at things - Matter/Energy interaction gained knowledge of its existence.

Further - it was explained to you that matter - at the sub atomic level is transformed into energy and energy transformed into matter such that my use of the term energy included both matter and energy.

Your disingenuous and obtuse nonsense continues.

Have you looked inside a Quark to see what it is made of ?

>>>MOD EDIT Quoted Comment Deleted <<<

 

OK let's see how that conforms to your argument...

Let's start with the first part: "Energy gained awareness of its existence..."

Assuming, for the sake of argument, that Quarks and Gluons are a form of energy.

Quarks do not have self awareness
Gluons do not have self awareness
Quarks and gluons combined to form composite particles such as protons and neutrons.
Protons and neutrons do not have self awareness.
Protons and neutrons, Etc. combine to become atoms.
Atoms are considered Matter, not Energy and atoms do not have self awareness.
Atoms combine and form molecules.
Molecules are considered Matter, not Energy and molecules do not have self awareness.
Some molecules combine to form neurons
Neurons are considered Matter, not Energy and neurons do not have self awareness.
Some molecules combine to form connective tissue cells.
Connective tissue cells are considered Matter, not Energy and connective tissue cells do not have self awareness.
In some specialized circumstances, neurons and connective tissue cells may combine.
...
Eventually thought and self awareness.

(my emphasis)

If your argument is that Energy became Matter and then following a long process of natural evolution thinking man emerged, I'd agree.

However, your comment...

...together with your "fact"...

...implies you believe that Energy itself became self aware and created Matter. If I'm wrong, then explain what you meant by "manifest itself into physical reality".

 

Sorry, I should have been more specific. I was referring to this information...

Specifically your implication that the Quantum Processors would malfunction if observed by a fly.

 

I already granted that awareness can be viewed as a function of the interaction between energy and matter.

You continually trying to continually pigeonhole the debate to "you said only energy" is therefore disingenuously obtuse.

I have explained to you numerous times what I meant by " Awareness manifested itself into physical reality"

I have explained to you that this does not mean that Awareness created matter.

I might as well be talking to a tree. At least a tree would not be so god darned obtuse.

 

Nice bit of out of context posting.

Here is the exchange...

Your comment stated that Matter and Energy "can transform back and forth". That showed a fundamental ignorance of reality. In response I asked if you knew how this process actually works.

That's a really stupid comment considering you just quoted me asking you "How does an atom of lead transform itself into energy?" That question clearly shows that I know that lead is matter, not energy.

 

You wrote "FACT: Energy gained awareness". You did not write: "FACT: Matter and Energy gained awareness." Had you originally written "Matter and Energy gained awareness" we would not be having this discussion. Had you clearly restated your position as: "FACT: Matter and Energy gained awareness." we could have moved on.

Nevertheless, we have made some progress. You seem to finally acknowledge that Energy and Matter are two different things since you wrote "interaction between energy and matter".

You did state "this does not mean that Awareness created matter.

You did not state what you meant by "Awareness manifested itself into physical reality".
You certainly haven't given any explanation of How "Awareness manifested itself into physical reality". You haven't even defined what you meant by "physical reality".

 

Spare me your silly and disingenous navel gazing. I gave you a link explaining to you that energy transforms back and forth at the sub-atomic level.

If you have a problem with the findings of quantum mechanics then take up up with nuclear physics academia. Don't call me fundamentally ignorant when it is you that has never taken a quantum mechanics class.

Don't call me fundamentally ignorant when I gave a link that backed up that claim vs you giving nothing to support your claim but your own hot air.

Further insult to the intelligence of humanity is when you claim "I never asked how matter can be transformed into energy" and then when quote where you asked that question you continue to back track and try and avoid taking responsibility or change or revise that claim.

I will not waste my time further your nonsense.

 

Please do NOT allow yourself to be cremated.......in the event of your death!


Just this morning it began to hit me even more powerfully how
important what I wrote about you over here actually is!

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...s-for-the-role-of-elijah-needed.499830/page-3


.......
If my suspicion is correct......
about the full calling that is on your life......
you are not going to be hit by the Ruach ha Kodesh in the form of a dove as
Yeshua was.......
it will be in the form of a bird of prey!

Isa 46:11

Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.

 

Very few people on this earth can write what AboveAlpha writes about
the topics that he gets into........



Should AboveAlpha allow us to set him up for the office of POTUS as early as 2016?


............

AboveAlpha was set into some missions that involved him being
shown information that was only shown to .... if I remember correctly he
was shown info on topics only know to President Truman, President George Bush Sr....
and one other president......


Russia's Government talks about Release of E.T. data. (Part 2)

 

Here AGAIN is the exchange...

"energy is a form of matter and they can transform back and forth at the sub atomic level."
How does an atom of lead transform itself into energy?

"energy is a form of matter and they can transform back and forth at the sub atomic level."
How does an atom of lead transform itself into energy?

I quoted your comment and immediately underneath it, I asked you to explain how that could happen.

If you can't see that I was asking you how you think "an atom of lead transform itself into energy" then your reading ability is sorely lacking.

Perhaps I should have written:

Gifteone, you stated "energy is a form of matter and they can transform back and forth at the sub atomic level." Would you please explain how matter, in the form of an atom of lead, can transform itself into energy.​

But, I didn't think I was having a discussion with a 10 year old forum newbie. In any case, I already pointed out in a previous post, that my question was addressed to you in response to your comment. But you just continued pretend that I was ignorant.

That's probably just a well. You, like many woo believers, take a little knowledge of science and twist it around to "support" your silly ideas.

At this point I'm quite certain that no one will make you understand that energy could not have gained awareness of itself.

 

Well Dark Energy is unquantifiable as well and so is Dark Matter.

Think about the direction I am going with this OK?

AA

 

It is quantifiable. How do you think we know it's there?

 

OK......ONE MORE TIME.....MATTER IS ENERGY AND ENERGY IS MATTER!!!

You decided to chose an ATOM OF LEAD.

Now......an Atom of Lead....or Pb.

ELEMENT

Name: Lead
Symbol: Pb
Atomic Number: 82
Atomic Mass: 207.2 amu
Melting Point: 327.5 °C (600.65 K, 621.5 °F)
Boiling Point: 1740.0 °C (2013.15 K, 3164.0 °F)
Number of Protons/Electrons: 82
Number of Neutrons: 125
Crystal Structure: Cubic
Density @ 293 K: 11.34 g/cm3
Human Color Recognition: Color: bluish

Now YOU ecco and Giftedone said some things to each other....back and forth things....not so very nice things.....and I AM HERE TO RESOLVE THIS AND BRING SOME ORDER TO THE SILLINESS!!!

Here is the exchange the 2 of you had...


↑
Further insult to the intelligence of humanity is when you claim "I never asked how matter can be transformed into energy" and then when quote where you asked that question you continue to back track and try and avoid taking responsibility or change or revise that claim.
Here AGAIN is the exchange...

"energy is a form of matter and they can transform back and forth at the sub atomic level."
How does an atom of lead transform itself into energy?

"energy is a form of matter and they can transform back and forth at the sub atomic level."
How does an atom of lead transform itself into energy?

I quoted your comment and immediately underneath it, I asked you to explain how that could happen.

If you can't see that I was asking you how you think "an atom of lead transform itself into energy" then your reading ability is sorely lacking.

Perhaps I should have written:
Gifteone, you stated "energy is a form of matter and they can transform back and forth at the sub atomic level." Would you please explain how matter, in the form of an atom of lead, can transform itself into energy.

But, I didn't think I was having a discussion with a 10 year old forum newbie. In any case, I already pointed out in a previous post, that my question was addressed to you in response to your comment. But you just continued pretend that I was ignorant.



↑
I will not waste my time further your nonsense.
That's probably just a well. You, like many woo believers, take a little knowledge of science and twist it around to "support" your silly ideas.
giftedone
FACT: Energy gained awareness of its existence and this awareness was then able to manipulate energy (manifest itself into physical reality).
At this point I'm quite certain that no one will make you understand that energy could not have gained awareness of itself.


OK......WELL THAT IS ENOUGH OF THAT RIGHT EVERYONE!!!????



I AM GOING TO STRAIGHTEN THIS OUT ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!

All matter is comprised upon it's smallest level or QUANTUM LEVEL......ALL MATTER IS COMPRISED OF QUANTUM PARTICLE/WAVE FORMS OF ENERGY!!!!

YOU ecco chose Pb or Lead as the Element of example.

So I will list the properties of Lead or Pb again.
ELEMENT

Name: Lead
Symbol: Pb
Atomic Number: 82
Atomic Mass: 207.2 amu
Melting Point: 327.5 °C (600.65 K, 621.5 °F)
Boiling Point: 1740.0 °C (2013.15 K, 3164.0 °F)
Number of Protons/Electrons: 82
Number of Neutrons: 125
Crystal Structure: Cubic
Density @ 293 K: 11.34 g/cm3
Human Color Recognition: Color: bluish
Post-Transition Metal
Now a single Atom of Pb or Lead is comprised of an Atomic Nucleus of 82 PROTONS......125 NEUTRONS.....has 6 ELECTRON ORBITAL FIELDS thus Pb or Lead is in the 6th column down on the Periodic Table with 6 Electron Orbital Fields
ORBIT #1. 2 Electrons
ORBIT #2. 8 Electrons
ORBIT #3. 18 Electrons
ORBIT #4. 32 Electrons
ORBIT #5. 18 Electrons
ORBIT #6. 4 Electrons

I will skip how many Electrons are needed in the 1rst orbit for the 1rst orbit to be full....ssshhhhh.......it's twwwooo!

And I will skip the part about how many electrons have to be in the last orbit for that orbit to be full.....sshhhh....I lied again it's 8 electrons.

And I won't even bother to bring up the fact that the HADRONS of which Protons and Neutrons are classified as along with Pions....that the Hadrons that make up an Atomic Nucleus of an ATOM such as the Protons and Neutrons are COMPLETELY COMPRISED OF QUANTUM PARTICLE/WAVE FORMS OF ENERGY such as Quarks and Gluons and all the different TYPES of Quarks such as Up//Down/Charm/Strange/Top/Bottom and that....

.....A Proton is composed of two up quarks, one down quark, and the Gluons that mediate the forces "binding" them together. The color assignment of individual quarks is arbitrary, but all three colors must be present.
.....A Neutron two down and one up quark is a subatomic particle, symbol n or n0 , with no net electric charge and a mass .... Theneutron is classified as a hadron, because it is composed of quarks, and as a baryon, because it is composed of three quarks.

AND ALTHOUGH I KEEP PROMISING I WILL NOT GET TOO INTO GREAT DETAIL ABOUT THESE THINGS.....a person really should look into QCD and QED or Quantum Chromodynamics and Quantum Electrodynamics to really begin to get a good idea about what the HELL we are talking about.....

....and then of course how Photons have ZERO MASS however other Quantum Particle/Wave Forms like Electrons DO IN FACT HAVE A MICRO-MASS........TSK!! But there I go again as I keep adding on to the issue!!

So ecco.....I will just answer the question YOU asked.....that being....."How does an atom of lead transform itself into energy?"...end quote ecco.

THE ANSWER....ecco is this........the ATOM OF LEAD OR Pb HAS ALWAYS BEEN COMPLETELY COMPRISED OF ENERGY!!!! ALL MATTER IS COMPLETELY COMPRISED OF QUANTUM PARTICLE/WAVE FORMS OF ENERGY!!

Now there is more to this so if you want just ask me.

AA

 

You incorrectly posted......Energy does not have mass....end quote ecco.

ELECTRONS are ENERGY.

ELECTRONS are QUANTUM PARTICLE/WAVE FORMS OF ENERGY.

ELECTRONS HAVE A MICRO-MASS.

PHOTONS are ENERGY.

PHOTONS are QUANTUM PARTICLE/WAVE FORMS.

PHOTONS DO NOT HAVE A MICRO-MASS.


So it's relative.

AA

 

We use the names DARK ENERGY and DARK MATTER to describe something that we cannot quantify.

We in reality have absolutely no idea what Dark Matter and Dark Energy actually are but we can detect their effect upon both Matter and Energy.

PSYIONIC ENERGY.....kind of the same thing.

We give a name to THOUGHT.

We have absolutely no idea what it actually is but......we can detect the effect PSYIONIC ENERGY has upon Matter and Energy.

AA

 

Zeroes, ones, and both
To get to grips with quantum computing, first remember that an ordinary computer works on 0s and 1s. Whatever task you want it to perform, whether it's calculating a sum or booking a holiday, the underlying process is always the same: an instance of the task is translated into a string of 0s and 1s (the input), which is then processed by an algorithm. A new string of 0s and 1s pops out at the end (the output), which encodes the result. However clever an algorithm might appear, all it ever does is manipulate strings of bits — where each bit is either a 0 or a 1. On the machine level, this either/or dichotomy is represented using electrical circuits which can either be closed, in which case a current flows, or open, in which case there isn't a current.


The idea of superposition led the physicist Erwin Schrödinger to speculate that a cat in a box could be both dead and alive as long as you don't look at it. (This cat is definitely alive.)

Quantum computing is based on the fact that, in the microscopic world, things don't have to be as clear-cut as we'd expect from our macroscopic experience. Tiny particles, such as electrons or photons, can simultaneously take on states that we would normally deem mutually exclusive. They can be in several places at once, for example, and in the case of photons simultaneously exhibit two kinds of polarisation. We never see this superposition of different states in ordinary life because it somehow disappears once a system is observed: when you measure the location of an electron or the polarisation of a photon, all but one of the possible alternatives are eliminated and you will see just one. Nobody knows how that happens, but it does. (You can find out more in Schrödinger's equation — what is it?)

The part you MUST UNDERSTAND IS THIS......

Tiny particles, such as electrons or photons, can simultaneously take on states that we would normally deem mutually exclusive. They can be in several places at once, for example, and in the case of photons simultaneously exhibit two kinds of polarisation. We never see this superposition of different states in ordinary life BECAUSE IT SOMEHOW DISAPPEARS ONCE A SYSTEM IS OBSERVED!!!!

OBSERVATION OF THE INTERNAL WORKINGS OF A QUANTUM SYSTEM DURING ASSEMBLY RENDERS THE SYSTEM INCAPABLE OF QUANTUM CALCULATIONS!!

This is basic stuff.

AA

 

I don't want to ask you.

 

If I were you I would understand why.

AA

 

I asked for a source for your opinion:

Specifically your implication that the Quantum Processors would malfunction if observed by a fly.

You didn't provide any.

 

Actually that is not what you asked me and you admitted it but you need to first understand WHY even the observation of the construction of a quantum processor by a FLY will not allow that quantum system to properly work before I tell you more.

Show me you understand WHY and I will give you the rest.

P.S......YOU yourself can easily find what you are asking me for.

AA

 

Ecco isn't comfortable with the role of consciousness at the quantum level. For the implications of this drove some of the founders towards a sophisticated form of mysticism. Philosophical materialists reject anything that is outside of materialism, and so they have a problem with the role of consciousness, as laid out when it comes to the quantum level of reality. I think this is his problem, and why he argues, and accuses others of Woo. Yet greater thinkers than himself have voiced what is unthinkable to Ecco. Philosophical materialism, and its great affection upon science, has no doubt been a self limiting factor, in science. This illustrates the power of deeply held assumptions. Ecco is a victim of this, but he has plenty of company in academia. It is almost akin to ideological driven political beliefs.