Old Enough for a Sex Change but Not Old Enough for Sex?

Admittedly, I am extrapolating that the number would be about the same give or take each year since. It might be even higher by now.

 

Maybe you would like to read my post again. Here let me help.

So what exactly do you think I misrepresented?

 

And today is the day you learned that breast reductions are cosmetic surgical procedures.

 

If he's got a problem with breast removal, I have to wonder if he's consistent and doesn't want them for biological male teens as well, or hypocritical is saying that it's ok for boys but not girls.

 

I didn't get anything wrong.

Female breasts are considered genitals legally (which is why you can't expose them) and as part of the reproductive system of women.

https://www.universityobgynassoc.co...-what-you-need-to-know-about-your-lady-parts/

Your reproductive system, otherwise known as your lady parts, is what sets you apart from men. The breasts, vagina, cervix, uterus, and ovaries all make up the reproductive system.

https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/genitals

Genitals means the parts of the human anatomy including the pubic area, anus, or perineum and the breasts of any female.

 

And today it is you learned that only about 4,500 of the 76,000 cosmetic procedures are breast reductions.

I'll also teach you that breast reductions and mastectomies are not synonymous.

Try harder. I can do this all day.

 

What in the **** are you even talking about?

 

Please, tell us how breasts are genitals and how they cause reproduction. Go on.

 

Ask the law makers and the OBGYN's that classify them as genitals.

Should be pretty obvious what they're for as part of reproduction.

 

That's easy.

76,000 is the total of all cosmetic procedures for that age range.

 

Unless you include things like, I dunno, circumcision.

 

76k is the number of all cosmetic procedures for both sexes up to the age of 19.

I don't blame him. That's what happens when you're trying to scramble for something to hold onto.

 

The law can make any definition it wants. Right now many states make sexual relations between an adoptive parent and an adopted child (even if said "child" is an adult) as incest, even though there is no blood relation. Further, many places do allow for the equal exposure of women's tops. It's legal in six states currently, and the effort is on to make it legal in others.

Your medical article doesn't state that the breasts are genitals. There's not been an argument that breasts are not part of the reproductive system. Just that they are not genitals. But if breasts are genitals, then breast removal from teen boys is genital removal as well.

 

The article I linked showed that boys have breast reductions/removals as well.

 

I didn't claim otherwise. I even specified that. So what was your supposed "ah ha!" moment there?

 

To be fair, we were talking specifically breast surgery at that moment.

 

That's easy.

The 76k procedures were not all "breast reductions".

Which all of this is just you trying to pretend that "breast reduction" is synonymous with "double mastectomy" in the first place.

You could easily find out how many adolescent breast reductions there actually were in the US per year if you looked.

I did.

I won't even go into the fact that they count 18 and 19 year olds as "adolescents", which they clearly are not.

 

Oh but the medical article I linked does state that they are genitals.

Nobody said male breasts are genitals. The law and OBGYNs rightly describe female breasts as genitals for their obvious purpose in the reproductive cycle.

 

Gender transition treatment minimum age lowered to 14-years-old
by Kelly McClure, Salon, June 16, 2022

The World Professional Association for Transgender Health has declared that the minimum age for gender transition treatment can now be lowered to 14, which is two years younger than previously advised. Along with that decrease in the age requirement for hormone treatments, the association has also moved to lower the minimum age for some gender reassignment surgeries to between 15 or 17.

In a report from AP News in which they detail information shared with them by the association prior to it being published in a medical journal later this year, it's explained that input from a pool of "more than 3,000 doctors, social scientists and others involved in transgender health issues" was used in making the decision to lower these minimum age requirements. A key factor in this decision, according to the association's report, was that lowering these ages would allow for trans youth to go through puberty at the same time as their peers.

Under the new guidelines, girls will be able to start puberty blockers between the ages of 8 to 13 ... the new guidelines also recommend:

- Sex hormones starting at age 14.

- Breast removal for trans boys at age 15. Previous guidance suggested this could be done at least a year after hormones, around age 17, although a specific minimum age wasn't listed.

- Most genital surgeries starting at age 17, including womb and testicle removal, a year earlier than previous guidance.​

 

Now now, he was probably just making sure none of the contestants had penises.

 

Oddly enough I read an article recently that stated that since NJ lowered the age to 16 not one person under 18 has opted for the surgery.

 

To be fair, NJ isn't exactly the place where I'd imagine there'd be a lot of wacky progressives that are into cutting edge sexual liberation issues.

Sure, that's a super-solid Democrat area and they have gun control laws that treat violators like attempted murderers, and half the state is like a sprawling suburb of NYC, but NJ also has a strong working class Italian and Irish culture where a large swath of the society is not very accepting of those type of things.

Typically you see the transgender thing in Northern traditionally mostly white areas that have metropolitan cities (like Michigan or Massachusetts), or in bigger city areas on the West Coast.

Another issue in NJ is that I don't think a very big percentage of the population under 18 are white these days. Lots of the children were born to immigrant parents.

 

I think apparent that makes the decision to put their kid on puberty blockers or cross sex hormones should be arrested.

 

I really think a lot of the rush to do this before they change their mind is so they can't go back on it.

When you say wait and let a person decide when they're old enough it means they're probably not going to. And what ends up happening is people say things like I was gender dysphoric when I was young but I grew out of it.

They're trying to piggy back on the gay thing. For what it's worth I do believe gay people are born that way but I do recognize some people might think they are and realize they're not. I'm just glad that we don't have something permanent that forces them into it for the rest of their life if they decide that they aren't really gay.

Why this is a thing why this is happening, is because a lot of people want to be ahead of the social curve.

They don't want to be seen like say the people who opposed integration in the South during the sixties.

The rushing to the next new thing trying to predict the future and in 50 years when people are looking back on this they'll probably think that it was pretty messed up that boys were playing against girls on girls leagues as long as they said they were a girl.

And children are given puberty blockers when they have no condition.

 

Well I can understand why you don't want to have your penis or breasts chopped off.

No I bet 90% of people over the age of 18 don't opt for the surgery.

It doesn't work anyway have you ever seen pictures. They aren't fooling anyone.