Once Again, Trump Brandishes the Nuclear Option Against Iran

The day they rejected reason and embraced faith. One histories greatest ironies was Islam’s preservation of Aristotle’s writings and transmitting to them to the West while rejecting them in favor of Mohamed’s mysticism—it began its downward death spiral into its own Dark Ages that still exist to day.

Islam is not moral, it’s pure, rotten, filthy evil. Nuke the mthrfkn bastards now.

 

SA Is not threatening anyone.

 

LOL. Homosexuals? Unaccompanied women? Christians? Atheists? Lovers? Cartoonists? Anyone who disagrees? Journalists visiting their Embassy in Turkey? Free speech? And on, on, on.

Give me a break.

 

SA currently destroyes Yemen, according to UNO the most deadly conflict we have on this planet right now. Saudi Arabia is the worlds leading sponsor of wahabi terrorism.

Saudi Arabia cuts journalists into pieces.

So again, you demand from Iran better behavior than from your closest ally?

You give a **** about human rights. You want bully Iran. Say what yiu want from them and stop the bullshit.

You cant kiss a** of the worlds most repressive regime and at same time demand "human rights" from someone else.

Compared to the sick **** going on in Saudi Arabia, Iran is like Sweden.

Ever wondered why your former allies tun away from you? Its because this ****. It gets too pathetic.

 

Why destroy nature when you can clean the mess with advanced CRISPR*CAS Virus?

 

If you were following the conversation you'd know I meant any other country, especially in a nuclear sense.. However you're right that SA also treats their citizens miserably, but that's a given for any Muslim nation.

 

So whats your problem? Iran has a higher standard for human rights than Saudi Arabia. So what exactly you want? That they lower themself on Saudi Standard? Obviously you cant demand that they get better than what you demend from your allies.

 

Trump is all bark, no bite

Trump speaks loudly and has a little stick

 

Ok. Fair enough. But yet, the majority of them 911 Islamic monsters were Saudis. And while the Saudis have become less of threat to America in recent years, they are not a friendly benevolent nation.

 

You must habituate every kook site on the net. You know nothing about KSA.

 

The Saudis have always worked with the American's. The USA believed the way to win its war in Afghanistan was with extremist muslims let out of Arab jails, not with Democratic Afghans. They were the ones it funded and trained while the Sauds took care of refugee education giving an extra extreme version as well as funding other things.

The US problem with the Taliban/Al Qaeda began when what they had helped to create turned against them.

 

I never noticed that in 20 years.. How do they "treat their citizens miserably"?

 

The CIA recruited heavy in Yemen for fighters to go to Afghanistan.

The Taliban were orphaned boys who organized .

The Taliban emerged as a powerful movement in late 1994 when Pakistan chose the Taliban to guard a convoy trying to open a trade route from Pakistan to Central Asia.

 

Never heard that one before. Some came from KSA, many were let out of arab jails where they had become more inhumane due to the torture they had received. The Muslim Brotherhood refused to be involved.

The Taliban emerged from the education of Afghan Refugees In pakistan funded and arranged by the Saud's. Their parents let them go because they received very good food which they could not afford. They were given an extreme version of Salafi which totally ignored even the very basics of education and anything about the Traditions of Afghanistan.

source RAWA

 

What is RAWA?

The madrassas in Pakistan were quite small. Most less than 20 boys between the ages of 6 and 11.

 

http://www.rawa.org/index.php

 

The Saudis have never been a threat to the US.. nor anyone else. 40,000 Americans live and work there and would tell you they are friendly and hospitable.

 

Oh a women's group. The Taliban are Deobandi with a lot of Muslim Brotherhood influence. In fact, there is a weird relationship between the Taliban and AQ and the Muslim Brotherhood.

Two years after the Taliban office was established in Qatar, the head of al-Qaeda, Ayman el-Zawahiri, gave the bay'a (Islamic oath of allegiance) to Taliban leader Mullah Akhtar Mohammad Mansour. Mansour was killed in 2016 by a U.S. drone strike in southwest Pakistan, and following his death, al-Zawahiri renewed his oath of allegiance to the Taliban's current chief, Hibatullah Akhundzada. In Islamic theology, the oath of allegiance is given to a sole leader or caliph, so al-Zawahiri's oath to the Taliban means that al-Qaeda is now officially working under the guidance of the Taliban.

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They are a lot more than 'a woman's group'. Did you miss their full name

Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan (RAWA)

I found them a very good source of information when I was looking for it several years ago but was very definitely not limited to that. I would have to waken up another computer to get the information.

You believe that the American Thinker is a better source than the women of Afghanistan who have been working with this throughout?! They formed RAWA in 77.

My own memory is a bit hazy at the moment but at base it was that the Saud's funded these schools which according to Rawa avoided even the basics of education - the 3 r's and education about their homeland, its traditions and way of life. I am extremely sceptical about your claim of Muslim Brotherhood involvement as I know they refused to be involved in the fighting. I had though refused to be involved.

Now I do have a memory of some form of Pakistan involvement in their teaching but also of Saudi.....this will need to wait as I do not have time to search at the moment.

However base line and this you have been honest about before. The Saud's were involved in the creation of terrorists during the Afghan war....and so were the Americans funding and training them instead of democratic Afghan warriors like Abdul Haq who told the US time and again what these people were like and asked them to stop providing them with funds. He eventually realised the US was quite aware of what they were like but that the US thought fanatics would keep the war going longer and so push the soviets towards bankruptcy.

Both the Taliban and Al Qaeda came out of this war. The US was quite happy to see them making the lives of the Afghan people, particularly women hell....it had no problem with the fact that they were fanatics .....until of course they turned against them. They still have no problem supporting them when it suits them. That was basically what I was replying to. Someone not knowing the US foundation for the rise of the Taliban and Alqaeda. The US knew about both, supported Al Qaeda, had no problem with the Taliban and according to Rawa turned a blind eye when they murdered democratic fighters.

No one holds the cup for foul play. It is a well shared trophy. Now in a rush.

 

Afghanistan has been at war since 1974 and the US has no magical control.. nor does Saudi Arabia. Who are the "democratic fighters" in Afghanistan?

 

Afghanistan has not been at war since 1974. I was in Afghanistan in 1975 and they most certainly were not at war.

There were many. Afghanistan had moved in an out of democracy. Abdul Haq was one of their main fighters. Prior to the US invasion, he told the US that he had been in contact with many people including ones who at the moment were Taliban and they wanted to do a largely psychological revolution themselves. They believed that if the US came in bombing this would end that and they would all go back to protecting their families and being in the Taliban. The US said No. Near the beginning of the war he was captured by the Taliban and had called for help. The US did not come and he was murdered by the Taliban. By all accounts he was the one person left after the Afghan/US/Ussr war who could have drawn all the tribes together into a peaceful and democratic Afghanistan.

 

An interesting claim, but one that on its face doesn't make a lot of sense.

Iran would do well not to overplay its hand by seriously threatening the world's oil supply.

An outright attack on the U.S. or its interests would be fatal for the regime.

 

What's the matter with you? The thread topic is "Once Again, Trump Brandishes the Nuclear Option Against Iran", not human rights in Saudi Arabia. It seems necessary to explain that in every post.

 

Even Hitler liked Western movies. Big frigging deal. They are monsters doing horrid things to life in the name of mystical deity for a chance at a delusional afterlife--much like the Christians at times in history--say the Spanish Inquisition, the Salem Witch Trials, the Catholics former prohibition against anesthesia, and their current anti-life, anti-reason crusade against abortion.

Religion is a pre-rational attempt at understanding of the universe and Man's place in it--its fine for primitives who believed firing flame arrows into the sun would reignite it during an eclipse, but it is a deadly poison to a civilization that flies spaceships, performs organ transplants, and explores the farthest reaches of the universe with powerful telescopes.

Islam, wherever it thrives--Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Afganistan, and all the rest, including the worst of the lot, Iran--like all religions, is a threat to the existence of rational beings--and the sooner they're gone, the better-off the civilized minds will be.

How so? Faith requires force.

Ayn Rand: "The damnation of this earth as a realm where nothing is possible to man but pain, disaster and defeat, a realm inferior to another, “higher,” reality; the damnation of all values, enjoyment, achievement and success on earth as a proof of depravity; the damnation of man’s mind as a source of pride, and the damnation of reason as a “limited,” deceptive, unreliable, impotent faculty, incapable of perceiving the “real” reality and the “true” truth; the split of man in two, setting his consciousness (his soul) against his body, and his moral values against his own interest; the damnation of man’s nature, body and self as evil; the commandment of self-sacrifice, renunciation, suffering, obedience, humility and faith, as the good; the damnation of life and the worship of death, with the promise of rewards beyond the grave—these are the necessary tenets of the [mystic’s] view of existence, as they have been in every variant of [mystical] philosophy throughout the course of mankind’s history."

https://soundcloud.com/aynrandinstitute/faith-and-force-the-destroyers

The rational mind doesn't use force, reason and reality are his weapons; the mystics is the club and the gun.

 

It was you who brought up human rights as demand for Iran. You cant demand human rights from Iran when you give a **** about what Saudi Arabia does. Its that easy.