One reason I fear Muslims coming into America

when we had an entire nation we recently conquered from the mexicans and indians we needed to be a nation of immigrants. There was a lot of land to fill and making babies takes too long.

when we have half the people not working we no longer need to be a nation of immigrants.

 

This folks is why Bush fought terrorism and excused decent Muslims. But he was despised by Democrats.

I don't go with the plan to blame all Muslims, and if you think I lied, let me know by showing me my precise post.

That is a fair deal, heh?

But when you are at war with Muslims, by all means, keep an eye on that guy from England that is a white man. Maybe he will blow you up. Sure, that's the ticket.

It also helps you survive by strapping on a thick face mask with no holes for eyes. That way you won't see it coming.

 

Not a good idea as a nation of mostly old people is not going to be a world power very long and we are barely at replacement level now even with immigration legal and non legal.

 

The problem is that Islamic extremism and Jihad is not anymore confined within individual jurisdictions and point of views, it is already a collective and organized cause which somehow they justified as necessary for fostering faith. Of course peace and order is a paramount desire for each and everyone and as a free country we could not deny entry if of course they pass through vetting, but what about if someone is being groomed, educated, and made appear crystal clear so that that someone could pass through the restrictions deployed. That is when I started to think how important NSA and The US Department of Homeland Security are, actually they are the true defense that we have and not really the immigration guidelines involved.

 

LOL the chance of being killed in a terrorists attack is less then dying from a fall in your own bathroom.

Irrational fears is the best weapon that the terrorists have in fact it is almost the only major weapon in the hands of the terrorists.

There was a mass shootings recently at the Fort Lauderdale Airport an airport that I happen to used from time to time but the next time I do use that airport I know that my chances of being shot when picking up my bags there is a fraction and a small fraction at that of my chances of dying in a car accident on the way to or from the airport.

Worrying about very low probability events is counterproductive and taking rights away from innocent men and women due to such fears is shameful.

 

we still have about half the people not working. If what your saying happens we can easily turn the spigot back on.

 

Would you agree to the following

1. At a point, the Shah too had those thoughts? That he was secure no Ayatollah could take over Iran?
2. Do you think Mubarak of Egypt saw it coming?
3. Do you honestly believe Assad would be fighting for his life were Bush still president?
4. Do you think war with Russia would be a possible event but for things done by Obama?
5. What were the chances for Gaddafi when he thought during Bush, he fixed his problems?

When you dismiss as nonsense a very possible threat, it sounds so much like Obama.

When he promised us he had a red line, poof it vanished.

 

That makes two of us who have been paying customers at Ft. Lauderdale.

Can you imagine the rush to catch flights post the shooting?

While you talk of innocent Muslims, and I am not going to factually say none are innocent, but those who truly believe, want sharia. It's how they believe. If a Muslim does not want Sharia, they are not really taken seriously. Bear in mind who blewe up the mosque in Iraq that unraveled the Bush 43 plan. Bush 43 had a great plan worked out. But how could he know early that Muslims would attack Muslims and blow up a very important mosque. If you can be specific about who you believe are the "good Muslims." work that path.

Are they Shia or Sunni?

 

Noteworthy that most of the 'Migrants are welcome here' brigade are women? There's no going back now! We're well and truly (*)(*)(*)(*)ed!

 

Thank you.

We certainly read enough of

through the last thread in which this forum's glut of bigoted & xenophobic couch potatoes (B.& X. C.P.s) who have never set foot in the Islamic world ranted and raved about the "Evil Muslims".

As with most ignorant bigots, the delicate sensibilities of our gaggle of B.&.X. C.P.s were spared the history of ongoing Western / Colonial massacres, exploitation, & manipulations by our heavily censored Western Media.

As one of few Forum members who actually spent time in the Islamic Mid East (10 - 11 Months in Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey etc.), I learned that the Muslims don't hate the West for what & who we are, but the strongly resent the 100+ years of Western / Colonial massacres, exploitation, & manipulations of which our ignorant B.&.X. C.P.s are completely oblivious.

Thank you again for pointing out

that is an ugly feature of the ignorant & small minded dupes of our bias, anti Islamic Western Major Media.

 

Robert, my business partner is muslim. There are quite a few here around Montreal, and they are a polite, hard-working, decent (and beautiful) people, who integrates easily. Their children are already more Quebecois than many people I know that were born here.

If these people came here, that's because they couldn't live with the violence and uncertainty that has gained their native countries, just like you and I would do.

The danger, if there is one, comes from their children, who might experience an teenage identity crisis that may push them to the dark side of their roots. But if they are well-educated and cared for, it will be a harmless, passing phase.

Here in Canada, we had two islamist-inspired "terror" acts, and both were committed by ethnical Canadians with messed-up lives.

 

WAYYYYYYY over the line dude.

Insult reported

 

Bush did not "have a great plan". By nearly all accounts...it was a disaster from the beginning due to poor planning and insane unworkable concept. And what "blew up" was a huge truck bomb that took out the UN...because of lack of basic security.

But hey...as usual,,,you've made stuff up and pretend it has a basis in reality

 

and Jews who truly believe, want Halachah law for all Jews.

so why don't you attack them as well?

 

OKC bomber weren't Muslims.

Dylan Roof not a Muslim.

Virginia Tech shooter not a Muslim.

Columbine killers not Muslims.

Aurora shooter not a Muslim

Sandy Hook shooter not a Muslim.

 

so because 9-11 was committed by 19 non-American Muslims, we should hate all the Muslims in the USA?

that's called "bigotry".

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wow, you just said that Osama bin Laden was a good Muslim.

and all the other Muslim terrorists killed by Obama, were actually good Muslims.

crazy times.

 

Most of those maasacres weren't classified as terrorism which is what we're discussing.

And we're just as opposed to immigrstion of white supremacists as we are to immigration of muslim fundamentalists so your point is double meaningless.

 

Thousands of Americans die from accidents involving fire arms . Like 30,000 people are killed accidentally every year. Really shocking and disturbing tales emerge. A man shoots his child by accident a child shoots another by accident. Some over zealous idiot kills his neighbor or some innocent teenager by mistake not accident ,mistake.no one seems to care. when Dylan roof killed eight innocent people no one seemed to upset. No movement to improve our protection from right wing nut jobs was proposed. Congress did not act when the mentally ill kid killed 22 children in Sandy hook. Right wing brainwashed but jobs mass murder Americans all the time.

The word Islam means peace. If you strip away all the dressing , you would see that Christianity is the root of Islam. The mythology is the exact same . The god is the same prophet is the same guy. It's all just mythology.
Either ban them both or leave them alone. You are being lied to . The people from other parts of the world are just people . People who want to live their children grow , tend their gardens and live in peace.

 

There will always be risks in life. No matter how much vetting you do, you can't hijack a persons brain. Muslims are as welcome in America as Christians. If that's a risk you don't want to take, then I can't help but honestly feel bad for you.

 

when a Christian commits a massacre, its called "mental illness".

when a Muslim commits a massacre, its called "terrorism".

bigoted double standard.



fact is there have been MANY acts of terrorism committed by Jews, Christians, and Hindus over the last 50 years.

 

when a Christian commits a massacre, its called "mental illness".

when a Muslim commits a massacre, its called "terrorism".

bigoted double standard.



fact is there have been MANY acts of terrorism committed by Jews, Christians, and Hindus over the last 50 years.

 

Nah, terrorism is well defined. The Oklahoma bombing was an act of terror, while for example Dylan Roof's massacre wasn't, that was a hate crime. All countries, religions and ethnicities have their fair share of criminals but worldwide terrorism is a predominantly Islamic thing and increasing the Islamic population prone to it in the US is idiotic and irresponsible.

 

Dylan Roof's act was terrorism, as he was trying to intimidate black people and cause a racial civil war. He had a political/social agenda, which makes it terorrism.

Stop making excuses for Christains, Jews and Hindus who commit terrorism.

 

Wrong. He was convicted on 33 hate crime charges, not terrorism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dylann_Roof

 

which is bull(*)(*)(*)(*), as he had a political agenda.