Only deadbeats pay no taxes

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  1. quiller

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    The Times article was sloppy. They transposed two key elements and contradicted their own findings right inside their own article.


    This is turning out to be a nothing burger.
     
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    He hasn't said if he would or would not. It's only been a day or so. Try a different approach.

    It was not up to the Times to release private documents. They broke federal law.

    When Biden finally emerges from his basement fortress, and finds nobody cares if he has, then what?
     
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    (actually replying to #151 but I screwed up and restarted with #152)

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    Yup. If it was supposed to be their October Surprise, it failed. No sizzle, just grease and a moldy bun.
     
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    Shame Obama didn't fix the loophole that allowed him to take all them credits and deductions.
     
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    Hillary ran an even worse university.

    Laureate University. Look it up.

    At least Trump's University never took money from low income students in Third World countries.
     
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    So he broke zero laws? Thanks for the info
     
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    Whataboutism at its best.
     
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    And again:
    A sure indication that your opponent has nothing left. He starts using refuted defenses over and over.
     
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    Yes, indeed, politicians who appeal to the brain stem instincts of the "I hate paying my taxes" crowd are hard to beat. This crowd generally does not want to contribute to the welfare of the country, but should they fall on hard times, they are the first in line with open hand for checks from Uncle Sam. I can guarantee you, none of them sent the $1,200 back that had Trump's signature on it. Of course, they then complain about someone on unemployment through no fault of their own is getting free stuff from "my hard earned tax dollars". The hypocrisy is priceless.
     
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    Why is that any of your business?

    Is that a requirement now for president?

    Lol.

    So because he has debt, and he doesn't have millions laying around (which you don't know, that's not represented on a tax return), we should be concerned about being compromised?

    Wtf?

    Yet, I bet if I ask you about the Bidens, and millions of dollars recieved from foreign countries, you would have nothing to say or dismiss it.

    What do the Bidens owe this foreign countries for that money recieved?
     
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    How many people do you think works for Trump at his private enterprise?
     
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    Seek help for that hallucination.

    I asked if you thought what the NYT did was legal, and to a Dem obviously the law means nothing. You encourage the stereotype of lawlessness which Dem-led riots have only exacerbated. Should they be punished for breaking the law? Would they, had they targeted Biden instead?

    I ask. You evade. So very, very typical.
     
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    They paid $52 million in taxes? Wow, Trump pays them a ton of money. Here's a little hint, read the whole article, the NYT even said he over paid by $52 million, and didn't collect it back. He left it with the IRS incase he needs to pay that later. Its called pre-paying and its what business owners can do. Some years he only had to pay $750, but he did pay $52 million instead.
     
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    Well then, do you really think he had the right temperament to run for office? Or run the country? Once you do, your life becomes an open book. If he didn't want that, he didn't need to run.
     
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    Not whataboutism about it. Trump followed the law so far as we can tell. You can whinge about him being a criminal, but you have no evidence he broke a single tax law as far as these returns.
     
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    He nearly certainly defrauded, that is based on just the amounts in question, businesses can not likely stay in business if they lose that much for that long. He can claim he had a billion dollars and didn't care about losses and there is no legal reason they can pursue the matter but its in the category of he's not fooling anyone, except Trumpers

    Once he is no longer President I do not give him much hope of staying out of jail, which is one reason he is fighting so hard to win, but it will be an exercise in futility. Even the Trumpers are tired by this point, his followers are dropping like flies with each new scandal
     
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    I can prove right now that it's illegal for a President to receive emoluments from foreign entities.

    But that's just in the Constitution. Nothing that would be of interest to any Trump loyalists anymore.
     
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    Business can stay in business quite a long time and never make taxable income, although Mr. Trump only paid $750 those two years because he carried forward his overpayments in other years per some reports instead of getting refunds. Likewise, businesses can create lots of taxable profit and the owners never see a dime of it if they borrowed money to purchase the business assets as principal payments are not deductible.
     
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    He doesn't think it should be that way and I feel the same. Temperament? Not important. It is results that matter. Trump is the rudest and most controversial president in my lifetime but he is also the best performer for the country by a lot. I wish he were a nice guy with good manners but I'm willing to forego that in return for reversing the anti-business climate in government, the battle with China, the reduction of American troops on foreign soil, America first and so on.
     
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    What emoluments? He donates his salary to charity and only has a $750 tax nut on his income. He is past a need find emoluments from foreigners like Biden and his family.
     
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    You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. And I do appreciate you can see Trump for his being rude. But unlike you, I think it DOES matter. Being 'nice' or 'respectful' are not the most important characteristics for the position, but I think they have proven themselves to be key factors in leadership. Honesty is a huge factor for me and most people. And he falls down there as well.
     
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    I don't disagree with you. I simply said I would trade the personality traits for the results. The results are what really matter.
     
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    Well it definitely stings the best :)
     
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