Oregon Considers Banning Gay-To-Straight Conversion Therapy For Children

Michelle Bachman's husband runs one of these conversion programs.. He gets a huge grant.

 

Now, fellas, let's get this out of the way. If they had this therapy for adults, how many of you wouldn't pretend to be gay so you could attend the meetings for the 'therapies'?

 

I have no problem with consenting adults going through conversion therapy. Changing one's sexual orientation is as much as right as changing one's gender. A homosexual who choices to go throught the borderline torture that often is part of conversion therapy is free to do so. However, any parent who would force their child to go through it because they do not like how the child was born should be considered unfit parents. Not only that, but IMHO, they deserve to die. Conversion therapy is often done by pain association. One of the most common ways to do it is to use painful electric shocks, and other torture. They are inhuman monsters who do not love their children. If they did love them, they would accept them for who they are, and would want to protect them from suffering. Instead, they force them to go through suffering to try to change who they are. They should be dragged into the street and shot.

 

Your accusation against psychiatrists that they physically torture children is an outrageous false accusation.

As for your claim that anyone who doesn't agree that everyone is haplessly born to be gay or straight should be summarily murdered is just a reflection of the unlimited level of hatred of some homosexual activists. Agree to any slogan this month they say or you should be murdered.Any act, inaction or words they don't like should result in everything the person has being taken from them and they refused any employment to starve them out and make them homeless.

Such activists and such as you posted are proving that thereias some merit in people sensing hatred and fear of such people.

 

should not have therapy allowed to try to convert a child to heterosexual or homosexual... leave the children alone

would someone support a parent trying to convert a heterosexual child to a homosexual --- same thing

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would that include shaming children into accepting homosexuality?

 

That is required in many public schools now with the kids tested on their acceptance of LGTB slogans and punished if disagreeing, along with requiring students declare in those tests their traditional Christian parents are liars, bigots and hate mongers.

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...sOGrifjQN-Q9ymv2kVIrdg&bvm=bv.104317490,d.eXY


well, they are calling CPS on people who they deem homophobic....

 

we've seen several cases where lesbians are giving hormones to children trying to convert their sex with claims that a 3,5 and 11 year old want to change sexes

you won't see people with strong morals looking to shove a deviant lifestyle upon anyone.

Why are you against offering help to those who seek it? Are you alos against all other forms of addiction assistance? Choosing gay sex is nothing more than a bad habit that needs to be addressed

 

Do you think anecdotal evidence means squat? There have been those who claim one and then the other, going both ways. Either they are bi or they didn't really know or perhaps in some instances the desires/attractions do change. But those would be considered the exception to the rule.
The world is made up of many many shades of gray. Not all black and white.

 

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ing-first-hormone-shot-trans-teen-goes-viral/

like this? #disgusting

https://youtu.be/OW92UlhDVO4

 

Yes, I agree. There are people who are adamant about labels. Many would claim she is bisexual. She rejects that. My point is her belief contradicts the pop culture.

 

Conversion therapy often uses pain association through things like electric shocks as part of treatment. It is not simply therapy. It's torture.

 

Are you saying the kids should tease, ridicule and harrass gay people instead of accepting them? I accept your right to exist and accept your right to be there. Why do you have a problem accepting someone that is homosexual shouldn't be harassed, teased, or ridiculed? and you claim your a teacher so do you tell your kids to attack homosexuals instead? Why wouldn't you accept them?

 

No, instead children should be taught that homosexuals and cross-dressing men are absolutely wonderful people, the ideal life style and best sex, for which if you won't be their friends you will be punished, given bad grades and expelled from school because the children are required to like and trust all gay people - especially older gay men.

No more worthless time on academic education either. The purpose of schools is to dictate to children to accept their parents are ignorant bigots and hate mongers, and instead to subscribe to progressive social values and personal behavior. This is so critical that no more time should be wasted on topics such as history, English, mathematics or any of that crap.The purpose of schools is psychological and social indoctrination of children.

Well, there is an exception. All kids should be forced to watch Al Gore's "An inconvenience truth" and tested on their total agreement, with singing praises to Obama at the beginning and end of every school day. Any attempt to have the Pledge of Allegiance presented should be a jailable offense and any kid saying a pray should be expelled and required to attend psychological counseling.

Until now a person was free to like and dislike who they do, and think whatever they care to think. Not any more.

 

I say you claiming psychiatrists torturing children is a lie.

If they want to outlaw electrically shocking kids then that's what the law should say. But that's not the topic nor are you messages on topic.

 

But homosexuals are superior people, so why shouldn't parents try to used hormones and drugs to improve their children? Surgery too. People like Cathyn Jenner are wonderful people, but would be better if parents had their boys testicles removed and penis inverted. That is the loving thing to do, right?

 

I fully supported gay equality, gay equal rights and the right to SSM. Used to be very involved directly in gay rights activism including for personal reasons I do not care to post on the forum.

But the direction of the gay rights movement, the media and government then have also taken are absolutely sickening and outrageous. This no longer has to do with gay rights, but rather it an outrage rabid hate mongering war out to destroy anyone and everyone who will not act and speak 100% in compliance with whatever outrageous and demeaning slogans old homosexuals make up.Fascist so-called "progressives" are turning many jurisdictions into totalitarian states with their own government dictated agnostic religion, going out of their way to spit on the Bill Of Rights, individual rights, free speech and due process of law.

We (including mostly lesbian and bisexual women) saw this coming about 2 years ago and fully pulled out of gay rights activism as the people in charge of it are the evil we were opposing.

 

Well aside from your extreme comments, again, we aren't talking about liking someone. We are talking about not being allowed to tease, ridicule, or harass them. Accepting someone is not the same as being a friend or liking someone it is accepting they have a RIGHT to be who they are. so again, do you support kids harassing, teasing, and ridiculing other children because they or their parents are homosexual?

 

That is NOT all many schools are teaching and testing on, and you know it. Any student who indicates opposition to homosexuality as immoral or sinful is shamed and ridiculed before the class, expelled or punished declaring his beliefs are "harassment" and overall told them must not avoid association or making any negative comments about homosexuality.

But it also is about the SUPERIOR STATUS of gays. All schools should have rules against harassing, ridiculing or threatening ANYONE. But gays are extra special so then extra rules are made to benefit those superior kids.

Of course, no matter what, don't mention that young teens having sex is ILLEGAL, including gay sex. Never, ever teach child about what law prohibits. Rather, teach the opposite, that having sex including gay sex is just fine. Literally teach children it is good and right to break the law.

 

Good thing. Research has found it to be damaging. No need to keep subjecting kids to that.

 

My point, who gives a shiite what her belief is. Anyone can find a dozen or more anecdotal things to support anyones beliefs.

 

As they should be. Enough hatred from those who love Jesus. Who loves all his children.

 

Just out of curiosity, how often to you talk to Jesus?

 

More than you, it appears.
What hate has Jesus specifically told you to promote???