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  1. DennisTate

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    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...obama-one-worlds-most-courageous-muslims.html
    Is Malik Obama one of the worlds' most courageous Muslims?
    In my opinion.....YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


    Obama’s Brother in Support of Third Temple Built in Jerusalem

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    only if you think Aliens are God's
     
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    Or... that they may have developed technology that could appear "godlike"
    to humanity of the year 2016.........
    and any truly intelligent observer of recent events will know that by the year 2116.......
    the technology of that time could dwarf what we have now........
     
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    yes, but you said he could not be an Atheist if he believed in Aliens seeding the earth

    having technology that is God-like is not the same as being a God

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    But it is much closer by definition to the term Agnostic.......
    than Atheist!

    Isn't it?

    If aliens may have developed the technological capability to resurrect the dead.......
    and/ or initiate new time lines....... then.........
    an understanding of this possibility...............
    resembles Theism...... or perhaps pantheism......
    as Dr. Albert Einstein claimed to be........a panTheist after the order of Spinoza..........

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...osophical-implications-multiverse-theory.html
     
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    nope, believing in Aliens just means life that developed on another planet, much different then believing in a God
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But.... if what Richard Dawkins postulates about intelligent life evolving on other planets.....

    is expanded to an open mind toward the possibility of intelligence beginning and evolving in fundamental or nearly fundamental energy then........
    this other variation on a similar idea..........
    would set the stage for belief in a truly godlike being......
    perhaps like Q on the Star Trek series........


    http://www.politicalforum.com/religion-philosophy/457685-theistic-evolutionary-theory.html

    Theistic Evolutionary Theory
    I actually do believe in evolution but I think that anybody who would dogmatically limit evolution to our four dimensional space time continuum lacks basic mathematical aptitude.

    Back in the 1990's I read several articles on GUT and string theory. Later on I read Stephen Hawking's Universe. in his chapter The Anthropic Principle he speculated that perhaps there were an infinite number of unsuccessful universes out there somewhere in which was no life due to the fact that electromagnetism, gravity, weak and strong nuclear force were not properly tuned for life as we know it. It seems obvious to me that another possibility is that the first intelligent life form might be composed of energy. Probably a fundamental energy such as SuperForce or Super Energetic Matter which may be the common denominator for all four forces active in our fourth space time dimensional continuum.

    13.72 billion years is roughly equal to ZERO time when compared with eternity. If fundamental energy would always have existed, as I assume Dr. Hawking seems to believe due to his suspicion of their having been an infinite number of unsuccessful universes and probably Big Bang + Grand Collapses, then if evolutionary theory could be expanded to have occurred within infinite time as opposed to limiting abiogenesis and evolution to abouit 4.5 billion years than you increase the probability of evolution being possible by essentially an infinite factor! I do believe in evolution occurring, but I suspect that perhaps 99% of evolution probably occurred before our Big Bang which was probably planned and choreographed by the Life Form/life forms that would probably be composed of fundamental energy.

    Is evolution more probable to have occurred within 13 billion years or within eternity?

    I must admit that these ideas about invisible higher space time dimensions sure does remind me of what many people who have a brush with death report.
     
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    I believe in reincarnation, so we evolve not only in these four dimensions.... But I do not believe in a creator God, cause then your stock with how did that God evolve, and of course for a God to evolve, life would of had to of come first, thus him not be the creator God, but just an evolved life form

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    Stephen Hawking Ph. D. postulated a variation of the Cyclic Model of the Universe that
    had an essentially infinite number of Big Bang type events happening....... even before the
    last major one of 13.72 billion years or so ago.............

    I believe that former Atheist Mellen Benedict saw how this happened.... .Those Big Bang events were
    planned...... and executed by an astonishingly powerful and ancient intelligence.


    http://www.near-death.com/reincarnation/experiences/mellen-thomas-benedict.html#a05
    .......

    He was also shown that humanity would be guided to solve all the terrible problems that we are facing at this time........

    http://www.near-death.com/reincarnation/experiences/mellen-thomas-benedict.html#a09

     
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    oh I agree, I think there are many many big bangs, I do not think our universe is the only one

    I do not think they are intelligent as in a creator God banging things around to create them, but I think natural processes create them
     
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    Or.... is it possible that the astonishingly high level of energy that fundamental energy would function at.........
    multiplied by The Law of Complexity Consciousness............
    caused a Creator G-d to evolve........ and get better and better at
    creation and education of created beings.......???


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Complexity-Consciousness

     
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    there is a possibility of a universal consciousness helping drive everything, in that cause you and I and everyone else are the God you refer too
     
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    Yes..... and investing all that effort over eternity in the past........
    has caused the most ancient and most fundamental energy intelligence......
    to be far far far far more emotionally connected to all of the creation......
    than religious leaders have taught.......


    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...most-emotional-being-universe-multiverse.html
    Could God the Father be the most emotional being in the universe/ multiverse?
    Which type of project will you tend to get more involve in?

    A job that you invested fifty hours of your time in over one month or a labour of love where you exerted a great deal of effort for 50,000 hours over forty years?

    .....
    I ran into this idea in chapter 15 of The Vision by Pastor Rick Joyner and I feel that this idea is critical in the turning of the hearts of the children, (us), back to the Fathers, (first and formost of whom is The Heavenly Father, the Ancient of Days), who Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua stated was greater than him and was aware of even the number of hairs on our heads as well as when a sparrow falls!


    http://www.scribd.com/doc/63814881/TheVision-The-Final-Quest-the-Call-RickJoyner-PDF

    Pastor Rick Joyner, The Vision, page 85 and 86:

    CHAPTER 15 Worship in Spirit

     
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    God has always existed. Hard to believe, but if you think about it. While sounding contradicting, "one thing must have always existed for anything to exist." That existence is God. For if one keeps tracing back through time saying, "well what created that, and if that created that, what created that." An endless search, while searching in the wrong place.
     
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    That is exactly what I believe as well..........
    but....... some Theists might call my idea a form of blasphemy......
    but I believe that the Ancient of Days the Creator....... learns.... and gets better and better and better at creating......
    new forms of life that never existed before..........
     
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    True....... but at the minimum this guy Mr. Sigmund Ivarsson has serious chutzpah.......
    which could be translated into significant artistic value..... that might just have some diploamatic
    and educational value.......

    He claims to be Messiah....... and/ or Elijah.......

    The fact that he links approval for the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple....
    over the Gihon Spring....... (where the Temple of Solomon supposedly once was
    according to some experts).....
    with the approval for this massive hydro-electric generation facility.......
    and solar desalination project........

    is actually a good start on an Elijah or Moshiach ben Ephrayim / Yosef audition!

    http://theschoolofthespirit.yuku.com/topic/2227/The-Petra-Project-Inc-inception#.V5XooGXA6UU

    The Petra Project Inc inception
     
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    Passing this challenge on to Canada's Conservative Party will be an important
    part of my platform.

    On the official Liberal Party discussion forum this topic did generate a lot of basically
    positive discussion but....... once Canadians gave P. M. Trudeau a majority government.....

    I felt that an initiative like this would be considered too risky for a majority government.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...tional-leader-canadas-conservative-party.html

    Dennis Tate for National Leader of Canada's Conservative Party.
    ....

    http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...ar-liberal-party-volunteerism-hour-could.html

     
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    I began the following discussion on April 15, 2009.

    http://cv.fr.yuku.com/topic/2840/Should-Jews-have-support-to-build-their-Third-Temple#.V6-Tg2XA6UU
    Should Jews have support to build their Third Temple?

    ....For the record I am no longer a member of the Christian Heritage Party. I have decided to join the Liberal Party and I am hoping to be the Liberal version of MP Rod Bruinooge who is in my opinion solid in his pro-life stance.

    I personally had to wrestle back and forth a lot with this question but at this time in my life I feel strongly that we Christians should invest some of our time in studying this question and prayerfully consider supporting the ultimate expression of freedom of religion for the Jewish people, which is their right to take control of the Temple Mount and construct a place wherein they can offer sacrifices.

    Mr. Boruch Fishman gave an amazing reply in this thread recounting an inter-faith miracle that he himself had been involved in. Mr. Fishman is Director of People For a Bill To Build The Bet HaMikdash.



    Should Christians support the right of Jews to rebuild their Third Temple? (Total Votes: 12)
    Yes, I believe that Jewish freedom to offer sacrifices even in the Messianic era fits with scripture. (10 / 83.3%) *


    No, I believe this would cause a Middle Eastern war. (1 / 8.3%)


    No, I believe that this will set the stage for the anti-Christ. (1 / 8.3%)
     
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    I totally disagree the <red heifer> is alive and well... watch the following.

    http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/17303/holy-cow-red-heifer-born-us/#65FzvS7zPXUSlvQk.97
     
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    I have came to believe that we humans.... even while we are nothing more than
    a spermatazoa and an ova.......
    are still in the image of G-d / YHWH..... while G-d was still a blog of fundamental or nearly fundamental energy?!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/opini...lligence-begin-matter-fundamental-energy.html
     
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    Fascinating.........
    but IF..... the USA film industry will begin to capitalize on
    the tendency for films that are respectful of people's religions.....
    to make money.......(The Passion for example)....... and IF.....
    THE USA film industry........... in combination to some degree with
    Hollywood North.......
    will realize that films produced from 2016 - 2035...... and even to 2075......

    that focus to some degree on the question of the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple......
    and the possible after effects of that event.......
    can become like METAPHORICAL GOLD.......
    and their increasing value over time......
    can set in motion a shift in the entire world economy..........

    America is way ahead of China when it comes to A. I.........
    that is both good news....... as well as bad news.......
    but G-d is in control of all of this.....
     
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    I could be wrong about this......
    but from what I know of members of the Latter Day Saints I do think that they also
    would tend to support the literal rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple.......
    and much much closer ties between the USA and Israel.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=397835&page=7&p=1066730168#post1066730168


     
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    That insult about how dumb Guru's idea is, is dumb in and of itself. Our Jewish friends want the temple rebuilt since that is the original site, and Muslims don't belong there. It's as simple as that. It is the holy site for YHWH and his worshippers. Thumb in the eye of a Muslim? Muslims have more than their thumbs in the eyes of every non-Muslim.
     
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    Well said Cassfox!

    I could be incorrect about this but there is a prediction by a fifteen year old Israeli
    near death experiencer that to my thinking indicates that President Obama may soon follow in the
    footsteps of his older brother Malik who is a Muslim who risks his life to express his support for
    the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple.

    Also..... I suspect that there will be some Islamic Noahide Nazarites who will be invited into the
    Court of the Nazarites by the Sanhedrin once the Third Temple is operational.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...obama-one-worlds-most-courageous-muslims.html


    Is Malik Obama one of the worlds' most courageous Muslims?
    In my opinion.....YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


    Obama&#8217;s Brother in Support of Third Temple Built in Jerusalem

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