Painters and Visual Artists

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  1. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Next is a relatively obscure Expressionist (killed at a tragically young age during the opening months of World War I) who dabbled in other styles such as Cubism, August Macke:

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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Finally, this is a relatively early work from a Russian-born artist who later became known for his abstract paintings, Wassily (or Vasily, Vassily) Kandinsky:

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    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    Who is the subject? Because of the way the light seems to come through his face, to bounce off his jacket, would suggest to me that he was a luminary of some sort (forgive the pun).
     
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    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    Vibrant color, but somehow feels, to me, that it should be part of a larger scene. I'd especially like to see a little more of the foreground (with its seemingly, contrasting darkness).
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I like the pun. :smile:

    The subject was somewhat of a luminary, and I believe he was one of OK's patrons. I suspect Loos commissioned the portrait himself, but don't quote me on that:

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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I suspect that may have something to do with the color rhythm of the blue in the painting. More of it in the foreground might have made the painting too bottom heavy.

    I think he did a nice job of weaving the contrasting warm and cool colors together in a somewhat serpentine fashion throughout the painting. This work is a nice departure from what one would normally expects from Kandinsky.
     
  7. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know what? Just as I uploaded that pic I realized I should have made the ripple around the rocks white.

    The other thing is you and @Talon are more into the creative side of things, I’m into the technical side. I see a tree and I put color on it. I don’t change the picture at all unless some damage needs to be fixed.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is Ansel Adams. It’s one of just two males faces I ever got right. You might not know it, but there are about ten or twelve colors on the skin of his face and ears.

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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I like the use of the colors. I’ve seen some of Hunter Biden’s pictures and they weren’t that bad. His use of color is on target. Over priced, but on target.
     
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    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    You don't find this piece to be a little, overly busy? The bright colors, a bit too tightly compressed? Though, the interesting thing, I always try to keep in mind, is that sometimes the size of an image, makes all the difference-- by which, I don't mean to imply that the original dimensions, are always the best ones.

    Case in point, was my seeing images in an art book of some of the work of Fragonard, I think it was, which I liked. Then I saw an exhibit of his actual paintings, in the Brooklyn Museum, which I found very disappointing. On the way out, however, in the gift shop, I noticed that the postcard- sized reproduction of his Girl On A Swing, which had so let me down, in the original, full sized painting, looked much more appealing, in this small picture.

    Of course, the opposite is often true, that you need to see a work in person, to really appreciate it. I just find the contrasting ways that can go, for different works, to be very interesting.

    Most images, in fact, give different effects, with big variations in their size.

    I think this was the painting, which was actually just titled "The Swing"

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    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    Funny thing: I was planning on including this painting, with the other, in my "overly- busy" evaluation; but after I'd downloaded it, from your post, then "shared" it, & uploaded it to my photos, so that I would be able to access it, through the Forum's "upload a file" function, at that smaller size, I was able to step into this scene.

    I have a feeling, the same thing might be true, of a significantly larger version, as well. So, yeah, it's kind of cool.


    Below, is one of those paintings that you have to see in person, that don't translate well, to a small picture. The actual painting is rather large, even bigger than lifesize, IIRC. Since we seem to be fully into the Modern Art period, now, my favorite of Picasso's work, is his Dora Maar material. These are essentially portraits of Maar, which are legion, in number. But whoever was the woman in Picasso's life, at any given time, was always a central focus of his; and the character of his relationship with that woman, was predetermination, of the style of that work. Much of the Dora Maar portraiture, is considered Surrealist. Here is the one I loved, in person, for the way it evoked a Through the Looking Glass atmosphere, combined with a tribal energy, vibe:


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    It took me so long to find that image, online. Here are some others, I picked up, along the way:

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    Looks like I'll need another post, to finish.

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    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    Picasso, Dora Maar paintings, continued.


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    Something interesting that was done with this image, or one of Picasso's similar ones, by a commercial artist, was to take the classic Dora sitting motif, and use it to turn Dora herself, into the chair!


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    I still couldn't quite get them all in. Though I have leftover images for Gaugin and the Naturalists, as well. Actually, though, I might be able to make one more posting with images of the actual Dora Maar. @Steve N might be interested in hearing, she was apparently a very accomplished photographer. I should dig to find some of her work.

    But not tonight.

    I'm not sure if I'll post what I have, at the moment, or wait, for another posting.

     
  13. DEFinning

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    Here is the woman, herself, Dora Maar:



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    And a few more Picasso paintings of her. This first one, is a variation on one, from the last post:



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    I guess green, was her color:




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    It had been a rather contentious relationship, I hear.


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    Here is one last Picasso painting, but not of Dora Maar


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    And with that, I going to call it a night.
     
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    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    What a funny coincidence-- you're big into electronic media? No, I don't mean that I am, as well-- I didn't say it was a big coincidence, just a funny one. Funny, because I would probably not have much of an idea of what you were even talking about, except that, just before you had written this, I'd seen part of a special in Nam June Paik, the Father of electronic media. I would be curious to hear your thoughts, about him and his work.

    I will put here, one of his best known works, which anyone in the thread should be able to discuss-- no special knowledge of electronics required. I am talking about (of course):

    TV BUDDHA


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    P.S.-- This makes it seem more logical that you would be taken with stained glass (but who can't appreciate that art?). In fact, I had thought to want to add, about the Expressionist painting you'd earlier offered-- which I had said, to me, that its shapes and colors seemed too busily concentrated-- it did occur to me that its vivid intensity does give it some resemblance, to stained glass!


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    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    artistic-male-guns-and-roses-tattoo-ideas-on-upper-arm.jpg @FatBack

    While you've probably seen it, I figured it couldn't hurt to mention, that I came across a thread, here, on TATTOOS. To get to it, start at "Other Off-Topic Chat," then choose "Creative Corner."

    The thread is pinned, as well: so even though the last post in it is from September 2019, I would assume that one can start posting in it, once more; it would make little sense to pin something, if it was going to be treated like a "zombie thread," should anyone post in it.

    There don't appear to be many images in it, though. I looked through half of the pages, and only found these 3:


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    Thanks for the shout out I will look for it.

    I'm still looking to locate my portfolio of my original art designs all done in the media of color pencil and ink and pen and ink or pencil.

    If you're good about searching images you can probably find it because I posted them here some years ago but damned if I can find them.

    If you do, I'd greatly appreciate it !

    I just happened upon the three dots the other day that are the real search function.

    I was using that one in the upper right hand corner and that one sucks compared to the three dots.

    And no I had not seen the thread on tattoos yet. Tip of the hat Sir
     
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    I just scrolled up and down the list of these surrealistic and other types of paintings.....

    And I'm here reporting from the scene, having much experience....

    I'm here to tell you that these artists were taking major types of drugs !

    I suspect people knew about all of these different types of drugs long before common knowledge literature and experience tells us that they did.
     
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    Hey @FatBack , how do you think any of these Picasso designs would work, as tattoos?


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    Just joking about that last one, obviously.
     
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    Post numbers, please! Posts #86, 87, & 88, are all Picasso works, and he is not reputed, AFAIK, as having been a druggie. While I wouldn't doubt he ever tried drugs, I do not think he could have been as prolific, as he was, had he been compromised by anything more than a little bit of wine. You know, when a person gets really absorbed in doing artwork-- especially, I know from personal experience, if they are disposed to obsessive focus, as it's fair to guess Picasso was-- it puts you into an altered mental state.

    Except for the Turkish woman, which is the very last image, all the rest of those paintings (and the 3 photos) are of the same person. This was the woman of Picasso's life, in the 1950s, Dora Maar-- who was an accomplished photographer, herself. Taken as wholes, it is this Dora Maar period, in Picasso's work, that is my favorite. The "surrealist" imagery, was related to Picasso's feelings about Dora-- a lot of ambivalence, I'd guage (and worse)-- and about their relationship.

    I had thought that was all I was going to post, of that work, but now I want to underline a point, by posting some more. It relates to the way I had described my favorite Picasso work, when viewed in person: the very first one, in post #86 (but which doesn't come across well, in a reproduction-- the original, is larger than life size). It conjures in my mind a Queen of Hearts, in a tribal African, Alice in Wonderland.
    In the 4th image, of my last post, addressed to you (#93), another connection to this image, occurred to me, which is why I will soon by displaying some more pictures, to hopefully convey what I'm noticing.
     
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    @Talon , since you'd brought up the Modern Art styles, and so are the person who I'd begun the idea, to which I, here, want to add:

    This is a pretty funny perception, I've just had. Recall, I'd described my favorite of Picasso's Dora Maar works as combining two different energies, which I just now described to FatBack as the "Queen of Hearts" in a tribal African version of Alice In Wonderland (Through the Looking Glass). Think of Yoruban ceremonial drumming and chanting, combined with Grace Slick's singing "White Rabbit." Anyway, I naturally thought this was an association, unique to myself. But now I see a
    much stronger basis for my "Queen of Hearts," concept: look at these female portraits, oftentimes sitting, which must have been Picasso's most used motif. Can others see, how these would fit perfectly, as illustrations on playing cards? Does it seem possible, they may have even been conceived of, that way, in Picasso's mind?

    Just to note: a lot of these are not Dora Maar-- Picasso's female consort, in the 1950s. Many are of the next, and last, major female influence in his life, and in his work-- his wife Jaquelin. This work begins in the early 1960s.
    I'll start with the Dora Maar image, offered for FatBack, which first flashed in my mind, this Tarot Card of Picasso's Lovers, idea:


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    I'll need at least one more post. (continued, ahead).
     
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    Even the last one could be tattooed.

    When it comes to color tattoo work the larger the overall size of the piece.... The more thick the black outline should be especially if you're using lots of color.

    You're going for a tattoo that can relatively be seen across the street when using such bold outlining.

    There is has and can be photo realistic works that are more detailed than the last painting you pointed out.

    My portfolio is either in this house or next door at my landlord's house and right now I'm too crippled to find it.

    Hopefully within the next couple of weeks I'll be good enough to produce it
     
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    It could very easily be mistaken for a photograph.

    Very good photo realism
     
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    Continued-- Paintings of Picasso's lovers, which resemble playing card type images; compare: Queen of Hearts, or of Clubs, or of Diamonds, or of Spades.



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    That is the end of my "cardface" examples. But, since I still have available space, l'll include a few more, worthwhile images:



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    Those first two are Jacquelin. The last one looks like it might be meant to be Dora, but I'm not 100% sure.
    About this last image, with multiple ways to see the face: as pointed forward, or to the right (its left)-- I'd noticed this idea, in several others, which I haven't used; so I guess there'll be one more, short post.

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    That was a black and white photo of Ansel Adams, the reason why it came out so well is because the photo was very high quality.
     
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    Picking up from my last post--

    Picasso, multiple faces. Though this device, now, doesn't surprise anyone, as innovative, I wonder if that was the case when these paintings were done, which really was not that long ago.


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    That's it, for those.

    Again, I'm not one for leaving much unused space, on my plate, so I'll dish out a couple, final portraits:



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