Palestinian Sheikh : We Need a Caliph with His Finger on a Nuclear Button, Like Kim Jong-un

The US, saving hundreds of thousands of American military lives, many of them our fathers.

 

No they don't. This is just the usual propaganda, Oh the Palestinians hate Jews regardless of the reality that they had lived well with the few genuine Palestinian Jews for hundreds and hundreds of years before the Europeans came colonising.

Hamas even makes this clear in its new Charter. Palestinians have become very aware of the difference between Jews and neo zionists.

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-charter-1637794876

and of course he is correct. It is Israelis and the Christian Right who try to identify every Jew with the actions of Israel - and to be frank that itself is antisemitism.

I suspect Hamas was copying Christianity when Hamas wrote it's first Charter. Check this out.

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/5/15/141520/281

Looks like Christians were the first people chasing Jews down rocks. Prior to 9/11 people recognised these antisemetic Christian fanatics for what they are. Now to all intents and purposes they (and the neo cons of course) are the Republican Party and Israel is becoming a partisan issue in the US - support from Democrats going down. Christian Zionists support for Israel was a marriage between them and the Israel extremists

http://www.beliefnet.com/faiths/christianity/end-times/on-the-road-to-armageddon.aspx?p=4

and as they have done that they have led Israeli society towards what was the extremes of Israeli society.

Support from Republicans also becoming more and more extremist all the time and one of the ways this is played out is to try and pretend the Palestinians hate Israelis because they are Jews. No they do not. They have said it time and again. They hate them because they are occupiers. Khaled Mashal made that very clear. He has nothing against Jews. He can coexist with Jews, he can co exist with Christians, he can coexist with those who agree with him and those who do not agree with him but he cannot coexist with occupiers.

 

Yeah well let's just say I am a dubious goy concerning Jewish education too (what the "Do they" was about). Not so sure it is objective.

 

I don't believe that Zionist will let go of any land they seized in the West Bank or if they do, only temporarly. If israel didn't wanted the land Palestinians are on, they could have put an end to the confrontation in days.

Why, if they accepted Israel or North Korea as such, then why not Palestine? KJU proves that a nuclear power cannot be pushed around.

Because Israel wants their land.

 

Dude, you openly advocated training children as soldiers and condone using them as suicide bombers to fight "the Zionists". It's those who do so who are putting these children in danger. Stop the violence by stopping Palestinian terrorism. History proves the Palestinians have grown into a death cult where they believe it's better to kill Jews than it is to live with them. The OP speech about Palestinians pleading for nuclear weapons is not about self-defense; it's about mutually assured destruction.

 

That isn't much better than the post which was deleted, and called for the Palestinians' extermination, Max. Kinda hard to believe in your good will after that. I'll leave you on these words of wisdom by Polish-Jewish Peter Ustinov:

"Terrorism is the war of the poor, and war is the terrorism of the rich"

 

Which post was deleted? I've never called for the Palestinian's extermination nor any other group of people. If an honest person is going to make that accusation, they would back it up with a quote. Liars, of course, won't and can't back up such accusations.

 

Why aren't Russians in diaspora attacked by Ukrainians over Crimea? Why aren't they associated with Putin's shenanigans? Why aren't they hostages of Russia by blood?

Why aren't Hindus in diaspora attacked by Muslims over Kashmir? Why aren't they associated with their government's actions? Why aren't they hostages of India by blood?

Why aren't Chinese in diaspora attacked by Tibetans? Why aren't they associated with Beijing ethnoreligious cleansing and human rights abuses ? Why aren't they hostages of China by blood?

Why should only Jews in diaspora be forced to be hostages of their home country by blood, subjected to attacks?

I don't pity those Jews. I pity those who force them to become hostages by blood, because living with such a burning senseless hatred inside must be a terrible ordeal.

 

Because they don't push for their "native" regimes' excesses. In fact quite often they're the first denouncing them.

Because not enough do the same. In fact some of them even send them money so that the zionist abuses in the WB continue.

No big surprise to me.

 

This is what all so called pro-Palestinians have in common: they don't care one bit about Arab lives, as long as those Arabs kill Jews. With such friends, who needs enemies?

 

Step-dancing, my friend?

 

Indeed. Bin Laden immediately comes to mind

 

Pathetic.

How many Chinese newspapers do you read?

This drive to reach out to Chinese communities abroad appears largely calculated to secure their investment in China, and in this respect it has been highly successful. According to one official source, as much as 70% of China’s foreign direct investment, a major motor of economic growth over the last two decades, has come from overseas Chinese.
...
However, significant emphasis is still placed on loyalty to China, if not to communist ideology. According to Pál Nyíri, the national and local Qiaoban and other government departments have worked actively, and with a significant degree of success, to encourage Chinese abroad to form new professional, kinship and common-place organisations, and Chinese government agencies have even provided funding for such groups to hold conventions. 37 The existence of these intermediary organisations facilitates liaison with the Chinese community overseas in ways that are mutually beneficial. Nyíri notes that many of the organisations’ leaders manage to meet and have photographs taken with senior Chinese leaders, and that these pictures and newspaper cuttings ‘are assets of considerable importance when doing business or dealing with officials back in China.’ In return for this patronage, the organisations show patriotic allegiance to the mainland on issues that are important to the Communist Party. Many, for example, organised protests at the 1998 bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade; and the People’s Daily English website includes dozens of stories about overseas Chinese organisations worldwide denouncing the quasi-Buddhist Falun Gong sect, against which the mainland government launched a campaign in 1999. Even more importantly, the overseas organisations are encouraged to endorse the ‘one China policy’ of reunification with Taiwan.
https://www.cbd.int/financial/charity/china-diaspora.pdf

Your "only the Jews" excuse shows that in your worldview Jews are different from any other human group, no matter how hard you try to convince yourself of the opposite.

 

I think you're wrong.



www.pewglobal.org/2011/07/21/muslim-western-tensions-persist

 

No peace is possible then. Let them keep fighting--right?

You're going to set up Palestine with nuclear weapons? Egads.

No reason to have peace talks.

 

The orthodox are the ones who believe it in the first place. I suggest you:

https://www.amazon.com/Holocaust-Industry-Reflections-Exploitation-Suffering/dp/1781685614

Finkelstein's book basically says that the compensation for Holocaust survivors are hijacked by zionists. Many Jews who speak against Israeli apartheid are shunned in jewish societies, being called "self-hating jews". That isn't the case with Chinese diaspora, for exemple.

No really, I pity them.

 

I don't understand your post.

 

Exactly how do you see these statistics proving that Palestinians hate Israelis because they are Jews rather than the antagonism being because they are occupiers ruling them by Marshal law for 50 years while taking their land and resources. There is nothing in this data which says that. I think rather you have proved what I have been saying. People who support extremist Israel try to stop argument with some sort of simplistic view like Palestinians hate Israel because they hate Jews or people only criticise Israel because they are antisemtic rather than honestly admitting there is a whole lot going on here.

When the Arab world believed there was going to be a satisfactory conclusion after Oslo, antisemitism plummeted. Jew hatred is not the reason for antagonism from Palestinians or even arabs in general. The oppression of the Israelis towards the Palestinians and the constant removal of their land and resources while keeping them caged like animals with no hope and really nothing to lose is.

 

While the Palestinians may have their reasons, they dislike Jews nevertheless. Look at the Pew survey above... Jews are liked by 4% of Turks, 2% of Egyptians and Jordanians, 3% of Lebanese, and 4% of Palestinians (West Bank and Gaza).

I think Arabs in surrounding areas dislike Jews because of Israel, not Israel because they dislike Jews.

 

They do have a problem with identifying Israel with Jews. However it isn't even Israel it is Israel's actions. Had Israel honoured Oslo the situation right now would be different. On whether they understand the difference would depend on education. Educated people know that Jews go out there to work for and help Palestinians - they have been doing that for a very long time. So you have admitted that they do not dislike Jews because they are Jews they dislike them because they are Israelis. I have gone further and said it is the actions of Israel's which oppress them, takes away their rights to their land and their resources and makes their life hell - a life some people have lived all of their life. It is all they have known. There are no people who would tolerate this regardless of whether it was Jews or anyone else doing it. When Israel decided on the two state solution the Christian Right in the US went mad. They started working to make sure it did not work. The people they were supporting were the Israeli extremist right. Bit by bit they got them into power and bit by bit the Israeli people, all but a very few, have also moved to the extreme right. I do not support the far right. I do not support colonising another people's land, keeping them prisoner for 50 years and taking their resources. I do not support race supremacy This is about values not identity.

 

Sadly true. They are well known to not only be willing to die killing Jews but anyone who gets in their way. I've already been falsely accused of desiring Palestinian genocide by one of their supporters. My best hope is that the NSA or their home country's national security agency are tracking these terrorist supporters.

 

Jew hatred by Muslims didn't start with the events in Palestine. Its in the Koran.

 

Agreed. Heck, even Muslims hate Muslims; the Sunni vs. Shia thing goes back to shortly after Islam began when Muhammad died. That said, I believe the vast majority of the world's 1.7 Billion Muslims are peaceful and pious. It's primarily those in the ME who are murderous nut jobs.

 

Sorry - I was wrong. When the mods mailed me that one of my posts was deleted because it was an answer to another deleted post, I immediately thought about this post of yours:

Looks like it's still there. The one that was deleted must have been truely horrible, then.

 

I can't discuss moderation even though you seem free to do so.

The bottom line is that you were wrong; I never have nor ever will call for genocide or the destruction of any people. Stopping terrorists and their supporters isnt' genocide, even though some people obviously claim it is.