Parapsychology and whether or not LGBT community were born that way?

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by DennisTate, Aug 29, 2016.

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Could your spirit / soul have been of another sex in a past life?

  1. No... this is silly pseudoscience!

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  2. Yes.... this would help to explain a lot of things.

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  3. Maybe..... I can't really rule this out dogmatically.

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  4. No.... this is a false doctrine / dogma / understanding of the research.

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  1. ecco

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    Yeah. It is wasting my time - bye.
     
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  2. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This might get your attention......

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/index.html
     
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    Procreation seems to be so important that natural sexual drives can be stimulated by almost anything. The fact that procreation does not always occur is meaningless. ALL sexual stimulation has procreation as its natural goal. This doesn't mean that sexual stimulation by any means is bad but, procreational-type sex and child-birth is the natural goal.
     
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    If we assume reincarnation, then a logical step is to assume that the spirit is actually genderless. Now two different logical step can be brought off of this point. Either it is the body itself that generates the gender, or some interaction of the spirit with the body. Either of which has potentials for creating mismatches between the physical sex and the perceived gender, before we even go into sexuality.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I personally feel that I am in no position to rule out the possibility of alien abduction.

    If they are real, I have wondered if they are happening in four dimensional space- time or perhaps in fifth or sixth energetic space - time/ (an out of the body experience)???

    I am hoping to get people to be more open to the possibility that perhaps, Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus may well have made
    statements such as the following...... as was shown to a near death experiencer:


    Five paragraphs that have the potential to save this world!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...have-the-potential-to-save-this-world.484728/
     
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    The LGBTQIA+PK movement is a false, ridiculous, absurd movement. They keep creating smaller, more fragmented subsects of "oppressed" peoples to bitch and complain about everything. It's an absurdity. One of my friends, 3 months ago, was "Pansexual Genderfluid." 3 years ago she was definitely a she, dated men, etc.

    Now, she "identifies" as "he/them". She now is Genderfluid Demisexual, a new parlance for "I am an idiot who is also confused slightly about what I like sexually, but want to force everyone else to know about it."

    I will not use her alternate pronouns because she has a vagina, and can bear children. She is not a man, and never will be. I am so ****ing sick and tired of being told how to speak by these elitist morons.

    Moreover, stop. Just stop. I love the whole "We aren't a part of society" thing these people endorse.

    Do you pay taxes?

    THen you're part of this society.

    Keep your sexuality to yourself and leave the rest of us out of it.
     
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    Psychotherapy might help, medication(s) etc...
     
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    Were the ancient Greek and Roman 'gay' males born that way? Was it genetics then also?
     
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    You need to be able to separate out homosexual behavior with homosexual attraction. Did males of that time engage in homosexual behavior because they were attracted to other males, or because it was expected of them?
     
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    I have no idea. You will never see me claiming it is genetic because I don't know.

    So I have no idea why you would ask me such a dumb question.
     
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    If gender is nothing but a social construct, how can somebody be born to ape a particular social construct?
     
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    Is the entire Sambia tribe born gay?

    http://lrivera0327.tripod.com/
     
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    That is a claim some make but not all. Sex and gender typically associated together as the same type, such as the male sex (the physical body) and the male gender (the mental self). Now one of the problems that occurs is that there are many behaviors that get asssociated with a given gender/sex, and these are indeed social constructs. Even mode of dress are social constructs. There isn't a current type of clothing associated with one gender/sex that wasn't worn normally by the other at some point in history. And anything new now, will most likely be worn by the other gender/sex at some point in the future.

    Typically when people claim that gender is a social construct, they are usually referring to the associated gender roles. Even when they claim to be talking about the mental self, they will usually make reference to behavior as their evidence.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And how would all of this relate to women.....
    having about thirty percent more connections in their corpus callosum whan we guys do????

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...may-have-30-more-connections-than-men.294632/

     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dr. Ian Stevenson has an interesting theory on this.......

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/gay-and-lesbian.html#a07


     
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    But there were several studies done that would be termed parapsychology.........
    but the standards were extremely high.........
    The Helen Wambach Ph. D. and Dr. Chet Snow research is one example of this.


    http://www.nupathz.com/whatif/Progressing_the_Future.htm

    Also.... I am 90% certain that you may wish to reply to this other discussion:


    Mr. Peter Boykin is in a position to play a HUGE role in 2018....
     
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    hypnotherapy as far as I'm concerned falls into the woo-woo category
     
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    The opinion of a "laid person" does not count for much.
     
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    stop bullying people
     
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    yes, if they were truly homosexual
     
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    Who gives a **** whether or not they were born gay or not. I am sure most of them are, but I am also sure that at least some of them develop same sex attractions based external factors. For example, a young man whose grew up with an abusive mother could subconscienously link the abuse to the fact that his mother was a woman, and development a mistrust of women. This would push them become close to other males, and naturally develop romantic and sexual feelings for males in order to compensate.

    But in the end it doesn't matter one bit. Whether or not gays are born gay doesn't effect their rights.
     
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    You are trolling me all over the forum Bullying me in violation of Forum rules, you stop it.
     
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    I don't believe science has found actual bonafide evidence that people are born gay or not, but if someone believes they were, it's not really our place to discount their personal experience. That said, I wonder if nurturing rather than nature actually determines whether a person is gay or not?
     
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    I have hear that theory before.......
    This entire page is interesting....
    Especially section 7....

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/gay-and-lesbian.html
    .....
     
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    Helen Wambach Ph. D. hypnotized 1088 volunteers and regressed them in time to what they viewed as past lives.......
    Over sixty percent of her volunteers were women.......
    but the ratio of male to female "past lives" viewed...... was in line with the actual ratio of men to women.

    This must indicate something about our psychology?

    http://www.carolmoore.net/articles/helenwambach.html
     
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