Paris is a shithole

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  1. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your source was not solid enough, I don't have to quote you any source for that.

    Not everything is on the internet. That's the difference between you an me, I'm speaking of a country I live in, you're speaking of a country you know only through internet. My claim was simple : not all descendants of harki are in a mandatory way muslims. I never claimed that all of them dropped their religion, I just spoke of a possibility. Furthermore, I already explained why that kind of claim can be only observed if you live in the country, and I can't source something, simply because it's probably illegal, and nobody had the idea for know to do a poll on that. So on a side, there is the observation of someone which live in the country we're speaking of, and on another side someone which know it only through internet source.

    There is no specific subside to move, but enough socialcare to no be dirty poor. There is a bunch of very poor people, unfortunately, the restaurant du coeur have a lot of work, but it's often people not covered by socialcare for a bunch of reason, or some families which fell into poverty.

    You sourced that muslims are discriminated on the job market, but you never proved that white people are discriminating muslims on the job market. You claim that white people are discriminating muslims on the job market, claim you never proved.
    Furthermore, I don't want to discredit it. It's a fact that gauls, arabs don't mix up, it's true for many things, marriage, friendship. And what's true on that level is true on a profesionnal level too. It's something you can observe in a french city.
    There is a bunch of exceptions, but it's only exceptions.
    I already explained that gauls tend to fear arabs. And the recent terrorist attacks only worsened that fact. The division between those two people will never being solved.

    The best for most arabs is to go back to their own.

    The french people today doesn't share anything positive in common. You can't build a people on that.

    It's the way ultra-liberal, mondialists, leftist and big corporate see the world : just a place to make some profit, and they don't consider a nation as something with an identity, but just a place to product goods.
     
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    Not really important on the subject that Muslims are fanatically discriminated when there is an opening.
     
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    They could make it, but other French people are fanatically discriminating them.
    As for "who cares"... we all decided that discrimination is highly illegal.
     
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    Good to hear. They have no business in France and they certainly have no right to be accepted. They can go back to their houses.

    "We all decided"? No. The activists and business owners seeking cheap labor decided to impose that on us.
     
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    Said somebody who's opinion is totally irrelevant besides utterly biased.
    no source, no claim

    Something like a million live in poverty in France. Poverty threshold was set at something like 650 euro.
    That would make you dirt poor, struggling to pay rent, food, clothing.

    You're nitpicking this in a pathetic way. As if they are discriminated by others when the numbers are THAT high.

    For fascists, yes. And I told you, I'm not interested in your fascist doctrine.
     
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    Their houses are in France, since they are French.
    Hence they got business in France.
     
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    There is 5 millions muslims in France much more than the million of poor people you're quoting, and a lot of gauls are poor, especial retired people and people living in the countryside.

    You still don't have any proof about the ethnic composition of recruiters or that a black/asian french would discriminate less, so your claim is bullshit.

    You still failed to prove that what I says is in anyway related to fascist doctrine. As far as I know, you're not that troubled by fascism, when for instance muslim countries have laws against people which leave their religion, and what is it if not a form of totalitarism ?
    Apparently, we westerners are absolute monsters, it would be a crime to force anybody to live beside us, we're way too mean.
    That would be a crime to force muslims to live besides kuffar. Aren't we the lowest of the creature ?
     
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    So what. People just above 650 euro's don't got it THAT much better.
    Just stupid to even explain this.

    Rather irrelevant to the fact that it's still Muslims who are fanatically discriminated. You're just deflecting away from the subject.

    Who got the biggest weapons, who are causing wars all over, who caused WWI, who caused WWII? Concentration camps? Who threw nuclear bombs? Who invented WMD's? It aint the religion of peace. That's for sure.

    And so much for all your huff and puff.
    Colonialism simply is right wing doctrine.
    And the mass immigration to haul in cheap labor.... not left wing either.
     
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    Prove that most muslims are living just above 650 euros.

    No, you claimed without any source that it's white people discriminating muslims. About "fanatically", a lot of people fear arabic looking people, and they have good reasons.

    See, you're saying it, we're monsters. Expulsing muslims from France would be so a humanitarian action. You wouldn't want muslims to be endangered by living with such monsters ?
     
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    Hypocrisy, you didn't stopped to use "french" to speak of gauls, french by roots, true french, and then they're french. You didn't included them into the "french" people when you said they were "fanatically discriminated by the french".
    And suddenly, despite you never truly french, they became french because it fits your narrative.
     
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    Ugly American tourists...

    Crime statistics are obvliously fraudulent... Don't trust the French when their statistics suggest that there is rampant crime. There is obviously no crime in Paris. None.
     
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    That proof would be illegal to have. And that is thanks to the extreme far right, who wanted to have info about where people live with what religious background. For the sake of moving certain people of certain religious backgrounds. You want people of certain backgrounds to move as well.

    You basically claim the same with "a lot of people fear arabic looking people". You're just playing dumb to not mention who you mean with "a lot of people" and think you can fool me.

    This discrimination has been going on since day one, when they put them in them nazi concentration camps.
    All you do is making a pathetic excuse why mass discrimination is justified.

    Last time I checked, ethnic cleansing is a war crime according to the Geneva Conventions.
     
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    Negative. We're talking about French citizens, who because of that are truly French.
    And the way you're going with "truly French".... and apparently also without mentioning the not so truly French.
    Just typical fascist to claim some are 2nd class citizens.
     
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    Look who's talking. Last time I checked the Koran was still calling for the butchering of unbelivers "wherever you find them".
     
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    Lol, according to Sharia law infidels (Christians and Jews) are concidered "Dhimmi" - full time second class citizens (and not even citizens in modern terms).
     
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    Not at all, since they were except from duties that Muslims had to do.
     
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    Well that aint true. Since that is about certain unbelievers, not all. That's where you lot fail on context.
     
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    Dhimmis have no political rights under Sharia law, therefore they are not citizens per se. Duh!

    Of course not all, Christins and Jews are "people of the Book", they cannot be slaughtered lightly. Besides, someone has to work.
    So you admit the Koran calls for "ethnic cleansing"? Oh wait, I forgot infidels are not an ethnicity, so it cannot be "ethnic cleansing". Dang it!
     
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    You can't prove your claim.

    Not only white people, there is fear among the chinese communities in France, they are often victims of the racaille which tend to often belong to the same ethnic background. It's the case for the Aubervillier chinese community.

     
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    That is certain political rights and on the other side except from being compelled to preform duties that Muslims had to do... like join the army and get killed, to protect the Dhimmis.

    I just denied that the Koran calls the murder of all unbelievers = genocide.
    And now you're substituting this with "ethnic cleansing" = removing people alive.

    Dang it... you're English is sub par!

    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/ethnic
    pertaining to or characteristic of a people, especially a group (ethnic group) sharing a common anddistinctive culture, religion, language, or the like

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_group
    Membership of an ethnic group tends to be defined by a shared cultural heritage, ancestry, origin myth, history, homeland, language or dialect, symbolic systems such as religion, mythology and ritual, cuisine, dressing style, art or physical appearance.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/ethnic_group.htm
    Ethnic groups are also usually united by common cultural, behavioural, linguistic, or religious practices.
     
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    Incorrect. You're asking me to prove something to claim and push the goalpost on that. That's not the same that I claim something.
    And you're asking me to prove something that you know is illegal to prove.

    The Chinese community isn't big enough to systematically discriminate Muslims on such a scale.
    Says who?
    Negative. This is just fascist doctrine, anti-semitic and anti-muslim.
    You need to be quick to ask a nazi who survived WWII, but there still are plenty of Serbs around who can tell you of how such a thing is dealt with in Europe.
    You claim is illegal according to French law.
     
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    Not my problem. That doesn't change you make unsourced and unproved claim.

    Prove it. I was just mentionning that the chinese are often as afraid of arabic people than the rest of the population. The murder of the chinese tailor of Aubervilliers.

    Sorry, I used the wrong expression. I was saying that harkis aren't 100 % of the muslims in France.

    Says the man who is justificating murders of jews by the fact they don't protest enough against sionism. And furthermore, it's plenty true, muslims whined a lot about the rohingyas, we didn't heard them a lot about the yezidis, when hundred of christian girls got kidnapped in Nigeria, we didn't heard a lot of muslims complain about that. Why ? Because only the rohingyas are muslims and the rest are not.
    Why you don't care of these women sold as slaves in Koweit ? Because they're not arabic. https://www.theguardian.com/global-...a-leone-sold-like-slaves-domestic-work-kuwait.
    Why you don't care of the fate of black people in Morroco ? http://observers.france24.com/en/20...hysical-assault-casablanca-immigration-guinea
    Because they're not arabic.

    Yes, I'm pretty sure that the pakistani generals which organized a genocide in Bangladesh paid their acts, oh no, they didn't. The same for Georges W Bush or Tony Blair. War crimes are a concern as long as you belong to the looser side. And I'm absolutely not killing people, I'm speaking of sending them back home.

    Well, quote me the law article.

    Rwanda, Lebanon, Syria, Yugoslavia, Bangladesh, the list of countries where the coexistence of multiple cultures and groups turned to disasters is long. And still, you leftist want to force something unnatural. (Too much) Different people can't coexist, they never could and they never will. Wanting to force this situation will always lead to disasters.
     
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    Your Muslimic arrogance and hypocricy are noted.
    The main reason Dhimmis were not allowed in the army was the fear they could rebel against th Islamic tyrany. It's like giving the codes for the German nukes to German Turks - insane!
    Dhimmis were forbiden to carry weapons in normal circumstancds TOO. Talkining about civil rights.

    Of course it didn't and I already pointed that. There are 2 kind of infidels.

    1. "People of the book" infidels, aka Christians and Jews. They are Dhimmis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi)
    2. Pagan infidels. The choice for them is clear - convert to Islam or die.

    Thank you for correcting me on "ethic cleansing". Obviously the Koran calls for ethnic cleansing. So when are we forbidding it?
     
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    It is because YOU specified something I needed to claim.

    They are just 1.5% of the population.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_France#Ethnic_groups

    So what. The discrimination is still there.

    Ah, the unfounded personal attack.

    You're just deflecting off topic.

    You're just deflecting off topic.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-law-makes-minorities-invisible-a7416656.html
    The law has been around for decades on end.
    And here you tell me I don't know France. lol

    The US is a multi ethnic nation.
     
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    You don't know my religious background.

    fake
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi
    In the border provinces, dhimmis were sometimes recruited for military operations. In such cases, they were exempted from jizya for the year of service.

    You proved nothing.
     
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