Part 18 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Thank you then we can clearly say you lost you still have not answer which ape did your ancestor evolved from or from which caveman.

 

Sorry someone created the Higgs Boson particle and surely it is not Mr. Higgs.
Apes unlike humans will not cloth their young, unlike priest priest will feed the poor, cloth the naked, help the oppress, stop human bestiality and fight for the defenseless and stand up against tyrants and terrorist. For sure you can not differentiate apes from humans and to answer your question apes are worse but the most worse are humans who insist to sell that humans are apes those are the worst.

 

Mr. Higgs discover that nothing can create itself and that even the smallest of all atoms that atom must have been created that is why it was called initially as God-particle.
I always accept that humans are not apes and did not evolved from apes you should tell that to AO.

 

What happened to humans didn't evolve wanren?
What happened to humans evolved from adam and eve? Were adam and eve uglier than cromags? I thought GOD created us in his image? Also what happened to Neanderthals?
Great now that you are finally discovering and baby stepping through evolution tell us wanren where each of the cavemen you cited evolved from?
Also, if you misrepresent what I have said one more time I will formally complain to the moderators. From now on when you make a claim I have said something please post the quote so I can go back and look at the dusty threads to see what the context was.
So to clarify, you theists need to post a flowchart of your newly conceived evolutionary chart. Start from the beginning, include your Adam and eve, your aliens, ALL of the cavemen you cited (doesn't have to be all of them) Since I know you hate apes they don't need to be on the chart you can leave that as an empty branch. The rest of us already know where they fall.
Thanks Wanren! Im glad you are not only accepting evolution now but defending it!

 

Strawman. People who are forced to make strawmans already lost.

 

Not that you will bother to learn anything:

"Hominina speciate from the ancestors of the chimpanzees. Both chimpanzees and humans have a larynx that repositions during the first two years of life to a spot between the pharynx and the lungs, indicating that the common ancestors have this feature, a precondition for vocalized speech in humans. The latest common ancestor lived around the time of Sahelanthropus tchadensis, ca. 7 Ma [4]; S. tchadensis is sometimes claimed to be the last common ancestor of humans and chimpanzees, but there is no way to establish this with any certainty. The earliest known representative from the ancestral human line post-dating the separation with the chimpanzee lines is Orrorin tugenensis (Millennium Man, Kenya; ca. 6 Ma)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_evolution

http://anthro.palomar.edu/homo2/mod_homo_4.htm

 

So Wanren, now that men can create, does that help prove gods existence or help disprove it?
Also, this is the last post I will allow you to state I said Humans are Apes. You have been instructed hundreds of times on the evolutionary process and simply are twisting peoples words in order to justify your fairytale.
FOR THE OFFICIAL RECORD!
Apes and humans evolved from a common ancestor, just like every other single living thing on the planet. Im glad you now understand and have now in writing illustrated your own disagreement with your bible.
Humans evolved with a larger brain, Apes evolved with larger muscles. We both evolved. You will note wanren both apes and humans have very similar attributes. Where did apes evolve from wanren? (more baby steps)
To illustrate wanren, will your clothing and big brain help you if you are face to face with a silver back gorilla? The answer is No wanren, the gorilla can tear you to pieces with its bare hands if it wishes to do so. In the gorillas environment they don't need clothes and in our environment gorillas don't need smartphones.
Also, its a stone cold fact Priests have raped defenseless boys over and over and over. Do you deny this?

 

Isn't it interesting how many people who CLAIM to have such "strong faith"....desperately search for "proof" of God's existance???

 

Better ask again....

WanRen.....you said all humans were descended from Adam & Eve.

What race were Adam and Eve? Caucasian? African? Asian?

 

That is a rationalization that does not square with LOGIC!!!

 

Seems you are overlooking a lot in defense of your Sun-God Jesus. There are too many parallels with all the many others over the thousands of years prior to the creation of Christianity. When the Romans adopted Christianity its practice was primarily Bachic as evidenced to this day by the statuary on those old cathedrals.
See: http://beyond-the-pale.org.uk/satan1.htm

 

He is the God that's everyone's God, the Triune God, the Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

The Bible makes it clear that God is one God (not three), but that the one God is a Trinity of Persons.

The Jews and the Muslims will also say their God is everyone's God, except the God they believe that is everyone's God is not the same as the Christian Triune God.

Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me." If you had really known me, you would know who my Father is. From now on, you do know Him and have seen Him!"---John 14:6-7 NLT

 

He mentioned a source outside of the bible, so what circular reasoning is prevailing? Just admit it that you're in denial of the truth, like my good friend WanRen said, "I know that truth can be hard to handle."

 

Exactly! Well said WanRen! Not surprising that some men will break a covenant but when it comes to Almighty God, He will never break a covenant.

Look as we all know the covenant that He made concerning the Great Flood, in that He will never ever again flood the entire world still holds true for He has never again flooded the entire world.

He stays true to His Word and so we can always trust our Lord!...but when it comes to men...well let's say you can't trust them all...some...but not all!

 

Yeah, a red flag a foul on the Jews for rejecting the Messiah Jesus Christ has been thrown up several thousands of years ago, no doubt about that.

You don't even understand the term "God's chosen" as if you think the Jews couldn't do anything wrong just because of that term.

When Jesus returns in His 2nd coming we will all see His glory unfold.

 

WanRen asked for proof, all you gave him were observations which one cannot deduce from them that they are the conclusive proof that we humans evolved from apes.

Sorry...but you just can't make that leap...no sireee! You are still missing a lot. All you have is a theory.

Go ask taikoo about theories...he'll explain them to you!

 

First off when it comes to God, nothing is ridiculous, miraculous yes, but to say ridiculous no...far from the truth! For nothing is impossible when it comes to Almighty God!

Secondly you are not understanding the implications of the sacrifice. When you finally understand as we Christians do, then and only then will you not view it as being ridiculous.

 

Nothing? Could God destroy Himself if He wished?

 

It's rather obvious you are not taking notes as we go along...lol We have generated 18 threads now and I know I have explained it before in that when we Christians say "when it comes to God nothing is impossible" we mean He can do anything that is not contrary to His own character and nature.

We read in Scripture, "This truth gives them confidence that they have eternal life, which God—who does not lie—promised them before the world began."----Titus 1:2 NLT

This verse tells us God cannot lie. Because He is holy, He cannot sin. He is just, He cannot overlook sin. Because Jesus paid the penalty for sin, He is now able to forgive those who will turn to Christ.

So in essence your question is invalid, illogical, non-sensical...have I left anything out?...lol

Now write everything down in your notebook! So the next time when you observe a Christian saying, " when it comes to God nothing is impossible", you won't feel like you're so smart and will refrain yourself by asking an invalid, illogical, non-sensical question as you have above.

 

Actually since Jesus was resurrected he didn't really die which makes the whole belief system a nullity. Can't you see that the story is an allegory on the Winter Solstice? In Northern latitudes about Dec. 22nd the Sun goes down and does not reappear until about Dec 25th. There is your 3 days in "hell". It is obviously from Pagan mythology as they were the ones living in those Northern latitudes.

Why did Christians adopt this Pagan Holiday season for their own?

You base your whole religion of the crucifixion upon a perceived “original sin” that gets passed on to the whole of mankind, don’t you?

I guess you do not really study your bible or you would have found:
http://biblehub.com/ezekiel/18-20.htm
http://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/24-16.htm

And Jesus answered: No blood offering, of beast or bird, or man, can take away sin, for how can the conscience be purged from sin by the shedding of innocent blood? Nay, it will increase the condemnation. (Gospel of the Nazorenes, Lection 33, verses 1-2)

That’s right. The sin is in your conscience, isn’t it?
Therefore if you are a righteous human you will feel the more guilty if someone else dies for you, and the guilty conscience will still be with you won’t it? Why should god forgive you for your sins? You are the one who committed them. You cannot just “pass the buck onto someone else”. You did it; you pay.

If this was truly god’s law, then shouldn’t mankind do the same thing?
Government should ask for a volunteer to execute so that they could open the prison doors and let everyone out. A sacrifice was made therefore they are all now forgiven for whatever crime they have committed.

You are saying that that is what god did. Therefore if man does the same thing he is truly following god’s example, isn’t he?

 

So what are you saying. Nothing is ridiculous to a ridiculous God ?

2) You do not know what is possible and what is not possible for God. Why do you pretend to speak for God ?

It is you that does not understand the implications of your claims. Claims that you can not possibly prove. In all your pompous unsupported claims however, you did not address the central question at hand.

Why would a God sacrifice himself to himself ? What is the point and what is the purpose ?

 

Where did you obtain the notion that God sacrificed himself?

 

Exactly and I will add they never find it. Its like those guys who search for Bigfoot week after week. They are sure it exists but never once ask themselves after searching their entire lives why they still haven't found a shred of evidence. They make up the wildest excuses its fascinating to actually watch them justify what they consider "proof". Its like when people ask the bigfooters why they have never found bones, they say "porcupines like to eat their bones" They know this to be true but have zero evidence of any porcupine....ever...ingesting them. Yeah.....porcupines are the reason no one can find bigfoot. This is no different. Some people need to believe in something, and don't want to admit their imaginary friends don't exist nor do they want anyone else telling them it doesn't. I am fine with that but religious people aren't. They want you to go squatchin with them.

 

Well if Jesus is God (somehow) then I believe that would be where he got the idea. Or are they two distinct and separate persons?

 

Are you completely ignorant of Christian dogma or just feigning ignorance once again so you can ask dumb questions?

1) This is not "my notion" I am responding to Mitt's notion.
2) The notion that Jesus was "the God of Abraham" comes from Christian Dogma.