Part 7 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    yes because those links are from none religious people.
    So far you have not posted any links to prove your position in regards to there exist no God.
     
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    "non" religious.

    no link or anything else proves or will ever prove there is no god. none of us ever argue that it is possible to prove there is no god.
     
  4. GraspingforPeace

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    That's because that isn't my position, bud. And I wasn't the one who claimed to have proof that God didn't exist, you were the one that claimed to have proof of its existence.
     
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    What do you think scientific theories are based on if not substantiated facts?

    Except that they aren't.

    In what way is it "so well designed"? And why are you claiming that it was designed in the first place? You're invoking the begging the question fallacy.

    And what "actual facts" are those?

    ...Okay.

    Your analogies don't hold since you're talking about already existing material objects. If your analogy was to hold then it would require an intelligence creating something from nothing which is what you're claiming happened with the Universe. Do you have an example of something coming from nothing that isn't the Universe?

    Except that time isn't an object like a watch. Anyways, all I see are assertions and no mathematical evidence like you claimed existed.
     
  6. Mitt Ryan

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    And why have you put your faith in the one particular Abrahamic God instead of the vast numbers of the other gods out there?
     
  8. Mitt Ryan

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    Quote Posted by dairyair on pg. 47 #463 of Part 3 in response to WanRen's post

    Nope I am not mistaken and you are a liar for insisting to spread lies that Christian worship the same God as the Muslims. Answer me, do Muslims worship Jesus Christ the God of Abraham or not? (Post by WanRen)

    Islamic theology identifies God as described in the Qur'an as the same god of Israel who covenated with Abraham.[28] Islam and Judaism alike reject the Trinity of Trinitarian Christianity, instead teaching that God is a singular entity beside whom no one else should be worshiped. However, the identification of God both in Islam and in Christianity with the God of Abraham led to a limited amount of mutual recognition among the Abrahamic religions (Post by dairyair in response to WanRen's post above)
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    Sorry but you did not answer the question that WanRen had asked you, he had asked you specifically, "Answer me, do Muslims worship Jesus Christ the God of Abraham or not?

    So I will answer it for you.

    The answer is no, the Muslims do not worship Jesus Christ the God of Abraham and so Christians do not worship the same God as the Muslims as WanRen has told you time after time.

    Are you ignorant or something, what is it with you that you can't understand a simple basic truth as to the difference between the Christian religion and the Islamic religion? A child in the 3rd grade could understand this simple basic truth and so what is your problem?
     
  9. GraspingforPeace

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    So, does that mean that Jews also don't worship the same god as you?
     
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    Probably not. Our fundies all think they worship "god" but in truth, they worship themselves.

    Note: -
    They know they are right; as in, "My mind has been made up and will never change all the way till my last dying breath here on earth."

    They will never ever admit or accept that they are wrong about anything

    They believe they have the Power of Inerrant Reading*

    They know more that all the scientists on earth about science, despite never studying.

    I mean, how wonderful can a guy be?

    *on this one, they self worship gets intense. When they read, their translation / interpretation is the True Word of God.. No other interpretation possible. THEY know, even if nobody else does.
     
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    I'm sorry, WTH are you babbling about?

    Pretty sure the bold is violation of rules.

    And No, you didn't answer for me.
    Is your god the God of Abraham, yes or no?
    Is Jesus, God, or son of God?
     
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    Its a deliberate insult and violation of rules, of course, but let it stand, it points to something about the person doing it, thats better not hidden.
     
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    I know and do let it slide, but then the whiney babies go and report when one gives em a taste of their own medicine.
     
  14. Mitt Ryan

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    First off no it's not a violation because I had asked you a question, I specifically asked, "Are you ignorant or something, what is it with you that you can't understand a simple basic truth as to the difference between the Christian religion and the Islamic religion?

    And so I was not blatantly calling you out as being ignorant but had asked you if you were. There is a distinct difference between asking and saying and so it is rather obvious you have issues comprehending what you read.

    God is composed of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, another way of saying a Triune God. And so Jesus is God.

    Jesus said, "The Father and I are one." John 10:30 NLT

    Jesus also said, "It is written in your own Scriptures that God said to certain leaders of the people. 'I say, you are gods! And you know that the Scriptures cannot be altered. So if those people who received God's message were called gods, why do you call it blasphemy when I say, 'I am the Son of God? After all, the Father set me apart and sent me into the world. Don't believe me unless I carry out my Father's work. But if I do His work, believe in the evidence of the miraculous works I have done, even if you don't believe me. Then you will know and understand that the Father is in me, and I am in the Father." John 10:34-38 NLT

    So as Christians our God of Abraham is the Triune God, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

    The Muslims God of Abraham is just the Father...are we seeing the difference now?...sheesh!...lol!
     
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    Of course scriptures have been altered.. Scribes and copiers tried to correct what they perceived as errors.. and many stories were cobbled together after the Babylonian exile because the North and the South had different oral traditions.
     
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    So if someone asked if one were morally weak or simply insane, that would be an honest question, with no insult at all intended? :D
     
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    How ridiculous.................
     
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    Oh I am not an atheist at all.. I just don't need epic fairy tales to back up faith and I know the Jews and the Muslims worship the same God we worship..
     
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    That's because Christians took the concept of the Messiah and flipped it on its head. The Messiah was never supposed to be God and rejecting Jesus as the one and only Yahweh is a direct result of a reading of the Old Testament. Anyways, regardless of that, I don't see how you can use the Old Testament for any basis of your religion if you are claiming that the Jews are worshiping a totally different God than you are. I mean, if the Jews weren't worshiping the same God as you, who WERE they worshiping? Who was Moses talking to? Satan?

    Well, you claim to know, despite Jesus not even fulfilling many of the requirements to be the Messiah.
     
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    But then the Jews will tell you that the Tanakh is Gods Word and surely their's is the first claim. Christians claim the Bible is God's word. Islam claims that although both though the Tanakh and Bible are good they are superceded by the Qu'ran - the final interpretation. As they say 'you pays your money - you takes your choice'.

    Can anyone really believe that a being so beyond our understanding, if he/she/it existed, would care in what form of 'religion' his creation should worship. It seems to me that 'God' looks down and thinks 'Why did I bother to create man'.:wall:
    Perhaps he's moved on and is starting again with another earth in the Alpha Centauri galaxy. :roll:
     
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    Quote Posted by AlphaOmega on pg. 48 #472 of Part 3

    Will God protect us from all future Asteroid impacts? Yes or No
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    Well the bible tells us how everything will end, one just need to read the Book of Revelation in the Holy Bible.

    There is no mention of asteroid impacts and so it's obvious in what we can conclude here in regard to your question.
     
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    Sure everyone's claiming their religion is right and so which religion is right you might ask? Well to be fair to everyone the answer is: are you ready?

    Only God knows.
     
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