Part IV Post your tough Questions on Christianity

So which modern version would you consider closest to original texts?

 

The resurrection has been demonstrated to be true, Jesus empty tomb, the Roman guards fleeing from their post, the missing body of Jesus Christ and the miraculous transformation of all the Apostles and followers of Christ from total fear to absolute no fear they all gave up everything and died a horrible deaths. Up to now the resurrection of Jesus Christ has not be disprove. It was not just because the Bible said so, it was the people who witness and wrote it down in the Bible.

 

the bible was written long after the fact and not by any of those folks you just named.

 

All of them were tough questions:
Noah's flood
Exodus
Genesis or evolution (human and ape distinction)
You pick one and I will respond to it.

 

That was according to the link provided by dairyair. Me I believe in the current Bible that Heaven is not Hell they are totally two separate.

 

I agree, that is why it was and is still very important that the church fathers continue to collect and examine all available manuscripts including new discoveries be it in science or artefacts. Right, now the accepted interpretation is the Bible that we have the Catholic Bible, King James, in fact all Christian groups as I have mention the Protestants, the Coptic, Armenian, Catholics, Orthodox, Anglicans and Evangelicals all have the same Gospel of Genesis that man are created in the image of God.

And just like science it continues to evolve depending on new discoveries, remember back then science taught that there was only nine planets in our solar system then they change it to eight after scientist figure Pluto is not a planet now they are saying there are more than nine.

To go further, that is why I am very interested with what modern science and medicine was able to uncover Jesus miracles including his resurrection. I have posted about that as to how medicine and science explain the resurrection as a possibility in their eyes.

 

How has the resurrection been proven to be true? Why have you not responded to any of my questions?

 

I think I have answer this way back, anyway, the writers start writing about Jesus Christ after they were 100% sure that he is the Son of God and they were 100% sure because Jesus resurrected. Before that, they were all in hiding and in fear that they will be next to be crucified. So after the fact which you are correct, after the fact that they finally witness Jesus resurrected they all become true believers it totally change them no longer were they afraid. Imagine that, they willingly gave up everything and died a terrible death. Unlike many Christians now a days they have made Christianity a career not a vocation.

 

100% sure!! hahahahahahahaahah! well I'M convinced!! hahahaahahahahahaahahah

 

so .... you're actually telling us what to ask you? or rather, telling us you'll only answer Tough Questions you choose?

this reeks of Sunday School (not that I ever went ... praise the lord), when Miss Pollyanna says to the kiddies "now kiddies, I'm here to answer all your lovely questions about god and jesus and the bible, so please ask me anything you like, and I'll do my best to answer". Little Johnny immediately pipes up with "why is God a man?", or "how, exactly, did Jesus turn water into wine?". To which Miss P replies "hush, Johnny, we don't ask such questions. It's not respectful".

 

further (and further), I have a child whose grandparents are godbotherers on my coparent's side. when said child, who is the kind of kid who likes to question everything and anything, and is fascinated by history and mythology, asks innocent questions along the lines of Little Johnny at Sunday School, he's usually met with a gentle tsk tsking or quick and awkward change of subject. sometimes they respond with a nervous laugh and a flushed face - as though he'd stood on the coffee table in the nude and shouted "I'm a teapot!" it's deeply bizarre, and disturbing to watch. on one hand they look for every opportunity to indoctrinate, and encourage discussion of things xtian ... but can only actually tolerate dialogue or questions which could only come from the converted.

 

We already covered Noah's flood and your response was that it was local ... not over the whole world as is stated in the Bible. This explains why there were numerous cultures all over the world that were continuous throughout the time period of the flood which is good but it also means the Bible got it wrong.

You tried to avoid this conclusion by stating that the Bible does not actually say that the whole world was flooded causing the death of every living thing ... which is patent nonsense.

Your timing of the exodus is disputed by most Biblical scholars.

I did not see your explanation for Genesis creation of man as opposed to evolution. What is that all about ?

 

Because a book of fiction says so is not proof. You can't prove the actually people who witness stuff actually wrote anything in the bible. In fact it was 100's of years later that they actually wrote this stuff. Nobody was left alive to have witnessed it at the time it was written.

 

I'm sorry wenren your not qualified to defend the bible. I/we need someone to come on this forum to defend the bible that actually knows his stuff so that they might have some hope of re-converting me. You ain't going to do it.

 

Why would anyone need to have a hope for your reconversion? It seems that most everyone has their own conversion and spiritual welfare to be concerned about through hope and faith.

 

You have documented proof to validate that claim? You know birth and death records for the then current state offices which concerned themselves with such matters.

 

Quote Posted by AlphaOmega:

When the innocent human lives ended on earth due to flood was it murder? Yes or no? If you say no, then justify why it wasnt murder and a striking hypocrisy to one of the ten commandments.
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No, it was not murder, no life here on earth is truly innocent. When God sent the Great Flood to destroy all living humans except for the 8 of Noah's family, He was not committing murder but rather He was punishing all the evil wicked people and justifiably so.

God did not enjoy destroying most all people and animals through the Flood.

The Bible says that when it came time for God to judge humanity, "The LORD was grieved...and his heart was filled with pain." This was due to the wickedness of the people.

In Ezekiel 6:9 NAS, talking of a time after Noah, God says, "Then those of you who escape will remember Me among the nations to which they will be carried captive, how I have been hurt by their adulterous hearts which turned away from Me, and by their eyes, which played the harlot after their idols; and they will loathe themselves in their own sight for the evils which they have committed, for all their abominations.

The Lord does not enjoy bringing punishment on people; in fact, God wants all people to avoid punishment and to believe in Him.

 

prove they were

 

You are not qualified to refute the Bible with any PROOF of the claims you would make in such refutation.

 

Quote Posted by Mjolnir:

I don't see any logical chain connecting "creator" to "moral authority". The two are unrelated.
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It's because you're in the dark, get out into the light. God being the Creator of everything that exists has every "moral authority" to tell us how He wants us to live after all He owns everyone of our souls and the way He wants us to live is the righteous way.

He has given us a guide book to follow, the Holy Bible.

 

there was no creator