Patriots at Denver...San Fran at Seattle...AFC/NFC Champ Games.

Belichick has the extensive football knowledge and experience to spot a Diamond in the rough.

He CONSISTENTLY will give away high draft picks in order to get a number of 2nd and 3rd round picks in order to draft players he can bring in for a good price he feels has potential as look at Edleman.

Here is a guy that was a QB and look at him now with over 100 catches on the year and one of the NFL's best Punt Returners.

Plus Belichick will find undrafted players no one wants and make something out of them.

He feels 1 High First Round Ego Driven Player is NOT worth 3 other guys from the 3rd or 4th rounds who are smart and although perhaps not as physically gifted have the heart, drive and mental toughness to be winners.

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Good thing he didn't go over Peyton lol. Just to add some laughs to that pick, Leaf went over Hasselback, who was a pretty good QB lol

 

That's why 5'8 168 lb T.y Hilton was drafted in the third round.......LMAO

 

You really going to compare Grigson to the rest of the GM's? He also went to Africa and grabbed rugby star, canada football for the colts starting lb, he doesnt operate like the rest, he is a gambler. He grabbed Fleener(white) before Allen(black), and Allen is a much better TE, take that as you will.

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Hassleback is a stud compared to Leaf, this racism (*)(*)(*)(*) so funny. I think because most qb's are white, the nfl must be racist against black qb's

 

Notice how don't have to "cherry pick" a single year, or dance all around. I merely pointed out that he has THE MOST RECEPTIONS since 2007. PERIOD.

He is a SLOT receiver. He makes difficult catches, in dangerous spots.

He has the MOST since 2007..INCLUDING 2010.

 

Welker is no doubt good, but he has played with 2 of the best qbs to ever play the game, that counts for something.

 

That sure didn't hurt him any. And BOTH of said QBs call him the BEST SLOT RECEIVER EVER....I defer to their esteemed judgement.

 

So because he was good an undrafted that's racism? Not scouts over looking him because hes tiny?

 

How can he be the best WR the last 6 years when he wasn't even the best WR in 2010.. or even on his team this year. Again, catches aren't everything.

 

Uh...what? I don't see race, in football or otherwise. You must be mistaking me for someone else.

 

We're discussing wide receivers,and "catches aren't everything"?

Makes about as much sense as tits on a bull.

He has MORE CATCHES than ANY OTHER RECIEVER since 2007.

ALL OF THEM.
Not in ONE YEAR, but in all of them PUT TOGETHER, including 2010..he is the FIRST NFL receiver with THREE 110 reception seasons,and the ONLY ONE with FIVE 100 reception seasons.

Catches ARE "everything", in a receiver's world.

There is a very good argument for him being the "top receiver over the past six seasons", which entails his TOTAL BODY OF WORK over that time.

 

Sorry someone else was saying the nfl was racist because of white people not getting drafted or somthing. Jibberish pretty much.

 

"The NFL is racist"? Is there a race not represented there? I didn't think so. Most people are waaaaaaaay past "race", as an issue, by far.

 

It's actually 9 years since they've last won their Super Bowl, but it's silly to argue than Spygate impacted their success. Belichick/Brady has actually had a better record since Spygate than before. They just couldn't get that 1 single play in those Super Bowls that they needed, unlike beforehand.

 

You are entitled to your own opinions, but you are not entitled to your own facts. The NFL took away a 1st round pick from the Patriots which, to this day, stands as the toughest punishment they have ever dealt out.

What does this even mean? Who is the NFL supposed to suspend here (besides, of course, Hernandez, who has a lot more on his mind than being suspended). The Patriots cut Hernandez on the very same day he was arrested. What else are they supposed to do?

 

Sorry, but catches aren't everything. Yards, yards, yards


Welker is good, but he's not Megatron

 

Sounds an awful lot like Denver. You know, the team that was making a mockery of the salary cap when they won their Super Bowls. They got punished and haven't seen any rings in 15 years. Hmmm...

 

So we just go by catches and nothing else? Except that there is more to being a WR in the NFL then just catches, that's the only thing you are using and it's not the only thing you should be using. Jerry Rice only had 4 100+ reception seasons, but is the greatest WR to play the game because of his whole body of work, not just one stat, which is what you are doing with Welker. I'm not saying Welker isn't good, because he obviously is, but he's not the best WR over the last 6 years.

 

That statistic is only true if you ignore playoff games. If you count playoff games, the Patriots won more games in the same period of time. Furthermore, the Patriots have won 124 regular season games in the past 10 years, which is more than Indy's total of 115 from 2000-2009.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

 

I don't think it mattered that big when it came to losing that pick considering they had the 10th pick and got Jerod Mayo out of it.

 

Wes Welker is a phenomenal slot receiver. Best in the game. But total receptions is not the best way to gauge the WR position as a whole. Calvin Johnson has only had 1 100-reception season yet he is widely considered the best WR in the game (even though Welker has had 5).

 

I actually agree he is the best slot receiver ever, but you really can't take something a teammate of his said and use that to support your claim. I mean, what's Manning supposed to say..? "Nah.... I've seen better than Welker...."

 

I was respecting your opinion and what you had to say - right up until that comment. Total receptions most certainly are not "everything" in a receiver's world. As I said in another post, Calvin Johnson is widely seen as the best in the biz right now, but he has only had 1 100-reception season. There isn't a single coach who would rather have Garcon, Edelman or Welker over Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald or A.J. Green even though those guys all have more receptions.

 

If you don't think losing a first round pick matters that much, then you don't have the first clue about the National Football League.

The fact that they had 2 is irrelevant. They had one of their first rounders taken away from them, which stands as the toughest punishment ever levied by the league against a team.

 

It could have been worse, they could have had none. They still had one and it was the 10th round pick, it hurt, but nearly as much as it could have, especially that year.

And I didn't say it was relevant to the fact that it wasn't the biggest punishment handed down, but it definitely could have been worse. The NFL couldn't take the 10th pick, New England had it, they got Mayo out of the deal who has been their best LB since he was drafted. They didn't do too bad.