People are confusing the meaning of 'peaceful protest'

I don't know how to reply, I don't think you meant, "mitigated", did you?

Anyway, I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

 

apparently YOU are mistaken

the riots that happened the summer before the January 6th insurrection are 2 totally different issues ..

the riots of the summer of 2020 began long before the police officer put his knee on the neck of a handcuffed man until dead

the turmoil started with Kaepernick's girlfriend convincing him to take a knee during the star spangled banner..

the murder of George Floyds played again and again world wide and confirmed kapernecks protest to be valid

the worlwide riots were because of a police officer casually killing a handcuffed black suspect

the riots were world wide , and resulted in over 10,000 arrests in the USA alone

the January riots began in early november when trump was declared the loser of the election

trump put into motion the so called stop the steal "rally" which became a riot

and it was no coincidence the rally took place on January 6th..

this was the last day trump could retain the whitehouse

the protest resulted in nearly a1000 arrests

there is NO connection with either riot

one was a civil issue..the other a political issue

the only connection between the riots is they were ALL on trumps watch

how many riots have there been since Biden took office??

the reason people are worried about January 6 riots is because

the rioters of January 6th do not believe they did anything wrong ..

they were following orders from the most powerful man in the world

 

DEmanding to be heard is what protesting is all about. That doesn't mean the protest is violent.

Demanding to have your specific demands met, your "cause fulfilled" is what protesting is all about. That doesn't mean the protest is violent.

When things turn violent, like looting and burning things, then it's not a protest anymore.

 

You realize that protesting over a police shooting was a bigoted act? Do you think the actions of one (or more cops) determines how all cops act (this is the very definition of bigotry)?

 

Demanding to be heard means the protestor thinks their message is more important in the moment than anyone else's. This type of protest is violent.

 

I meant miti

You're right. I meant the opposite of mitigated. The authoritarian nature of congresscritters and certain state governors caused (the opposite of mitigated) the riots because said governors and congresscritters didn't heed the wills of the constituents they should've (but didn't) heed.

 

So, if demanding to be heard isn't what protesting is all about why don't you tell us the purpose?

 

You can try to be heard you just shouldn't demand to be heard
Trying to be heard is more of a neutral action while demanding to be heard is more of an authoritarian action.

 

You care about democracy, don't you? Demanding to be heard is the opposite of a democratic action no matter the goals of your protest.

The only time demanding to be heard isn't the opposite of democratic is when the majority feels the same way as your protest.

 

WTF are you talking about, how? What was the will of the constituents that got ignored? How is the a response to my claim that conservatives (which is being generous) are "trying to hide and INSURRECTION that would have changed the way we live and how we are governed behind riots, though awful and devistating "LOCALLY", had no lasting affect on "The American Experiment".

Our elected officials were honoring the result of a free and fair election. <-period What else would you have them do when that's what has ALWAYS been done, previously, in our 246 year history. The riots of 2022 were caused by opportunistic anarchists that went into the cities where demonstrations over police brutality were taking place. Without being completely brutal, I'm not sure what else could have been done. But equating the January 6th INSURRECTION with the riots of 2020 is disingenuous, at best.

 

Like you are trying to do with the 1.6 insurrection?

Odd

 

for telling the truth?

 

Mischaracterized as usual.

The protesting that was going on the day of the Capital riot WAS peaceful....until it wasn't. It's not either/or. The same holds true of the BLM protests last summer. A lot of the protesting WAS peaceful...and then there was rioting too.

What you did in your post in the first part of your sentence is group the peaceful protesting and the rioting last summer all together into one incident....and then complain that people are doing the same thing to the Capital protests and subsequent riot. If you refuse to recognize the difference from the events last summer, you have no right to expect that same recognition over the rioting you were okay with.

If you wanted to be honest, you could say this.

The peaceful protesting both last summer and the day of the Capital riot was okay. The rioting that some of the protesting last summer and the protesting in the capital devolved into was not. You don't have to pretend that the protesting and the rioting were the same act, because they weren't. Not last summer, not in the capital.

The protestors were not doing anything wrong. The rioters are all human garbage. Some of the riotous garbage in both series of events had previously been protestors who weren't doing anything wrong...until they were.

No need for spin, no need for inventing more fake narratives. Remember, it was a fake narrative that led to the capital riot in the first place.

 

So now you admit that the summer riots were insurrections that you swept under the rug?

Odd

 

Can you direct quote me “sweeping” any rioting under the rug? I called for mass arrests and military intervention.

I will wait while you deflect or run away

I know it is hard to fathom everyone not being a partisan hack

 

Not even close. Maybe you should look up how democracy works?

 

No demands? by that standard none of them are peaceful.
I can't recall any protests by any group in this country based on a bunch of placards with gentle sounding suggestions, or protesters whispering quiet sweet honey infused requests. Nobody worries a lot about remembering to use 'please' and 'thank-you' at a protest march and they are not designed to be decorum - based activities.

Your definition of 'peaceful' is perfect for art museums, libraries, sleep study centers, and ballet performances, but not to delineate between peaceful and violent protests. 'Peaceful' works a synonym for 'quiet' is some contexts, but not in this one.

 

I don't know about you personally, but you can't deny that the left as a whole swept the summer riots under the rug and are blowing Jan 6th up out of proportion for political reasons, calling it an insurrection when not even one person has been charged with insurrection. Personally, I don't give a damn about you. The left have done exactly what I say they have done and you seem to acknowledge that by defending only yourself.

 

And you just deflected and ran away!

 

Let's put aside specious comparisons between some of the BLM protests devolving in to violence with 1/6. They aren't on the same plain. I'd like to focus on you trying to sweep 1/6 under the rug. Not just the events of 1/6 but all that came before it. Cuz it's impossible to separate all the component parts of the attempted coup while only paying attention to the Capital riot.
You claim 1/6 is being blown out of proportion. That's because you consider it a singular event and not part of the more comprehensive plot to steal the election. I will not list all the aspects of the plot again. They are well known. Together, they form a concerted effort to subvert the will of the American voters who went to their polling places and sent in mail-in ballots rejecting Trump and electing Biden. Something to this day Trump, and millions of his adoring fans, have not conceded to.

 

I disagree that a protest isn't peaceful if protestors 'demand' their message be heard or their cause be fulfilled. That's literally every political activist ever. We can say it's annoying that they're blowhard diehorns on the mega phone. To me, a protest turns violent very simply when one uses physical force or intimidation to coerce others to doing their bidding.

But yelling about 'x policy or preference' super loud is not violent to me. Crowding the bridges/roads is a civil disobedience/disturbance but not necessarily a violent upheaval in of itself.

 

And the "patriots" do it with a *wink-wink, nudge-nudge* that doesn't even try to hide behind a fig leaf of believability anymore.

 

Despite normally being on the opposite end of this topic, at least here we both agree on the definition of a violent protest. And I've never contested that the events on 1/6 weren't violent or weren't illegal, they were both. The question is, what type of violence and illegality. When we see political coups in the third world of recent, it shows the distinctive difference between what the misguided protestors ended up doing, and groups like the Taliban, etc. Now, who's to say that if they breached and saw the senators/representatives if things would've gotten darker. But as of now, we've yet to see an elaborate plan(outside of the mike pence chants.) nor is there a sign that said plans were signed off by the President's lawyers.

I agree with McCarthy's take, that those engaged in trying to prolong the election by quasi-legal(not quite illegal but definitely not in fair spirit, which is an important distinction) means(ie: The Green Bay plan), were not violent insurrectionists. It was a mean spirited legal theory, that apparently the House is rightly prepared to squash.

Those who did breach the capital engaged in criminal activity, which I view as a riot and trepassing, etc until further notice(ie: proof the administration collaborated with the trespassers.)

 

I strongly suggest that you read the text of the 1st Amendment. You seem to be confused about some very fundamental things.