Peyton Manning going to the Denver Broncos... be still my heart....

Peyton Manning has had a great career, but he missed last season with neck injuries -- never a good thing for any quarterback to have hanging over him. If the Broncos' offensive line doesn't give Manning any better pass protection than they gave Tim Tebow, Manning will probably be knocked out for the season after about five or six games, at best.

Meanwhile it looks like the Broncos' front office will have run off the best prospect they've had for a true successor to John Elway -- right under Elway's nose! Tim Tebow has a whole career in front of him and he just gets better and better -- why are we booting him to get one season, AT MOST, from Peyton Manning?

Reminds me of when the Dallas Cowboys dumped Tony Dorsett in 1988 after a ten-year career there. The Broncos picked him up and he lasted one year, then injuries forced him to retire.

Tebow gave all of us Broncos fans and the team such a positive uplift of hope, and a really great comeback last season, going from the ditch all the way to the playoffs, which was truly amazing. Now we'll get to gasp every time the defenders come smashing through our tissue paper offensive line and sack Manning, over and over and over....

 

Why didn't Manning just retire? All athletes over the age of 30 should have to engage in a paid consultation with Barry Sanders before signing any contracts or making any decisions.

 

Where do you think Tebow will go now that Denvor sold him out?

 

He was too contraversial. Tebow is hated for reasons that have nothing to do with football, but political and religious affiliations. He's on the same blacklist as Rush Limbaugh. A conservative in the limelight.

 

I'm not a Bronco fan (I'm N.Y.Giants & Tim Tebow fan), but I feel your pain. Let's hope that P.M. doesn't get permanently hurt, first & foremost for him & his families sake, & secondly for the Broncos sake. And let's hope that T.T. lands on a team that wants him, hopefully with some WR's that can get open, & also progresses into a QB that many think he can be.

 

Some people say Tebow will head back toward Florida, closer to his old home. I dunno -- maybe he'll go where I thought Manning would be going: Tennessee.

I just don't get it... nobody knew the art of knowing best when to retire better than John Elway, right after the Broncos' back-to-back Super Bowl XXXIII win in 1998. And yet Elway, as Broncos Exec. VP of Football Operations, was pivotal in bringing Manning on board: 35 years old (very old by NFL standards), and after four neck surgeries.

What were Elway and Pat Bolen (Broncos owner) thinking? The question they'd better be asking themselves is, "Who's going to be our quarterback after Manning gets injured again so badly that he's force to retire?"

There's a reason why Denver quarterbacks like Elway and Tebow are good "scramblers", agile and able to take crazy risks running out of the pocket, throwing on the run, and making sudden crash dives for another first-down: they've HAD to be! For some reason, it has never been possible for any Bronco offensive line to give their quarterback the kind of pass-protection that guys like Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and other great quarterbacks are accustomed to. A lot of generals look good, calmly commanding their armies, safe and far behind the lines of combat -- but quarterback "generals" like Elway and Tebow have had to gut it out in one skirmish and assault after another to win. I just hope Manning doesn't end up being a quadriplegic....

 

No, people dislike him because the media coverage of him was irritating and overboard. That is of course not his fault at all, but it was still irritating. The other reason people dislike him, is because he is a bad quarterback!! Despite what ignorant people think, he is not ever going to be a QB comparable to Peyton Manning!! Manning could be wheelchair bound, and he would still be better than Tebow. That has nothing to do with my opinion of Tebow personally, which is pretty apathetic. It is to do with my understanding of football, which makes me realize Tebow is simply not very good at playing quarterback!!

 

A poor QB, with no accuracy or ability to read defenses? A fullback, playing QB?

 

Montana to KC...Favre to Jets..and the list is endless. I wouldn't git me panties too damp over Manning to Denver.

 

Well, Favre was pretty good in Minnesota..... They were one play away from a super bowl.

 

Well, yeah...you got me there.

 

Manning has been a great quarterback, and that is undeniable. But even without the factor of all those surgeries on his neck, at 35 he's moved into the twilight of his football career. Every twenty-something, 250-pound linebacker that plays against Manning will be looking to become "the guy who knocked Peyton Manning into retirement"... and it won't take one of them long to do it.... Peyton Manning will learn the painful, inevitable lesson that Brett Favre learned -- and I just hope Manning doesn't get paralyzed from the neck down in the process!

That notwithstanding, your assessment of Tebow is completely uninformed and, well, silly. Did you pay any attention at all to what he accomplished as a quarterback this past season? This young man, who will be 25 later this year, can throw from in and out of the pocket, he can scramble, he can throw on the run, and he can throw very long distances with amazing accuracy (when his receivers can get in the clear). Oh, and yes, he can storm the scrimmage line and pull out impressive yardage without anybody (except his opponents) bitsching and complaining that he made a first down!

Yep, it's certain now. The Broncos have committed a strategic mistake that will set them back several years after Manning goes into one state of decay, or disability, or other, and some other team is going to pick up a growing windfall of talent, courtesy of this shortsighted blunder of the Broncos' front-office....

 

What the....he was the least accurate starting QB in the NFL. Please don't try to polish a turd.

 

And Tebow was 2 wins away from a Super Bowl as a rookie.

 

Explain to me again how you make an NFL team if you can't read a defense?

Ask the Steelers if he can read a defense...lol.

 

So tell me how the least accurate passer in the NFL can take his team 2 games away from the super bowl? While more accurate passers are sitting at home.

 

There is an enormous difference between 1 play, and 2 games, especially since the first of those 2 games resulted in destruction!! When Tebow played against a good team, with an actual NFL QB, they got absolutely destroyed!!


PS. Tebow was NOT a rookie last year.

 

Because he won in college, has charisma, and has all the intangibles teams want. They got captivated by that fact, and forgot to consider actual football considerations. Tebow is terribly inaccurate, and can't run a pro-style offense. His reads are absurdly simple, and he is only asked to throw a few times a game.

 

Because Pittsburgh was decimated by injuries, so they got upset. Because the Bears a few weeks before were also decimated by injuries, without that game Denver wouldn't have made the playoffs at all. Because Marion barber fumbled late in that game, in which Tebow was embarrassingly terrible, to allow them back into the game at all(before that time Denver had scored 0 points). Tebow seems like a good guy and a good leader, and I would have him on my team as a 3rd string QB(as long as he got paid 3rd string money), but I wouldn't take him as my starting QB under any circumstance!!

 

Elway won his FIRST Super Bowl at 38 years old. Not exactly a young buck there like Timmy.

Facts are facts, Manning, with 4 neck surgeries, at 35, soon to be 36 years old is MILES better then Tebow will EVER be. Period. Don't get me wrong, as a Broncos fan myself, I was quite pleased with how our season went considering how we started. Buy I was also never fooled into believing that it was because of Tebow and Tebow alone. Football is a TEAM game. Denver's Defense was on the field waaaaaaaaay too long. It's amazing they were as good as they were considering they must have been so gassed near the end of the season.

Denver's offensive line is fine. Clady is a stud. And Saturday playing Center will be a huge plus, if Denver can sign him on.

 

Is that a serious question?

A. Denver could run the ball
B. Pitt was unhealthy

And last time I checked, football required 11 men on each side of the field, not a Tim Tebow and 10 irrevelant others.

 

You are so right that it is a TEAM effort, Walter, and, wow -- what an excited, energized TEAM the Broncos were with Tebow as the new quarterback.

I do disagree with you on one thing, when you say that Manning "is MILES better than Tebow will ever be"... how do you figure that? We do know how good Manning has been... but we have no idea how good Tebow will be, and it will likely be three or four more years before anyone can really assess him. How many other NFL quarterbacks have begun their careers as well as Tebow did...? How many other NFL quarterbacks will start out this season after having missed the entire previous season, and after having had four surgeries on their necks...?

One thing's for sure: in 2011, the Broncos were headed straight for the bottom of the NFL when Tebow took over as QB, and any way you rationalize it, he did take the entire TEAM much closer to the Super Bowl than anyone, including Pat Bolen and John Elway, would have been able to imagine in their wildest dreams. Now that dream is gone, and it's going to turn into a nightmare for the Broncos if anything else bad happens to Peyton Manning....

 

It seems to me, and I am not saying this as an insult, because knowing about football is hardly a great accomplishment..... but it seems to me that you know very little about football. There are very few QBs whose first years as significant contributors were much worse than Tebows. Look at Tebows completion percentage, and it is embarrassingly low. For a comparison, Tebow's percentage was 46.5%, Drew Brees led the league at 71.2%!!! Imagine that, and it becomes even more absurd when you consider that Brees threw the ball 657 while Tebow only Threw it 271 times!!!!!!! In his entire career Brees only completed less than 60% of his passes once. Similarly Manning did it once, Brady never, Rodgers never, Hell even Tony Romo never had a season where he completed less than 60% of his passes. Tebow is historically bad, and a few lucky breaks, charisma, and a seemingly legitimate ability to raise his game in the clutch have overrated him to an amazing extent. His performance is so bad for most of the game, that it isn't hard for him to improve. He will never be a top level NFL QB. I would bet every dollar I have ever earned, plus all the money I will ever earn on that fact!!

 

SEASON TEAM GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM RAT
1983 DEN 11 123 259 47.5 1,663 6.42 7 49 14 0 54.9
Guess who's rookie stats these are? Good thing he wasn't judged by his first season as a starter like Tebow is by some, or he woulda been bounced outta the league. T.T. may not be technically a rookie, but he's never had a full preseason as a starter & his career record as a starter is 9-7, which amazingly equals one full NFL season!

 

Here's another interesting stat:

Highest TD percentage in red zone
By QB, last 2 seasons*
Broncos Tim Tebow 28.6
Jaguars David Garrard 27.2
Colts Peyton Manning 25.7
Packers Aaron Rodgers 25.7
Patriots Tom Brady 24.6