'Pfizer and Moderna better get this clarified': Study finds worse antibodies after mRNA boosters

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    A new peer-reviewed study is raising concerns that a third dose of Pfizer and Moderna vaccines may actually worsen immune response against COVID-19, creating waves in both mainstream and heterodox COVID circles.

    Published in Science Immunology last week, the study by German researchers found that mRNA boosting induced a high level of so-called IgG4 antibodies, a subclass known for prompting a mild immune response, in two cohorts of several dozen healthcare workers.

    The "shift" to this IgG subclass was "not seen with adenovirus vector vaccines" in the study, Scripps Research Translational Institute Director Eric Topol, who was not involved in the research, tweeted while cautioning that "clinical significance is not known."

    "Pfizer and Moderna better get this clarified," California gastroenterologist Farid Jalali, who once pressured the FDA to fast-track COVID vaccines for infants, wrote in response to Topol before marking his account private.…











    read more news: https://justthenews.com/politics-po...er-get-clarified-study-finds-worse-antibodies









    This news report is very interesting and quite troubling for many. At least Twitter won’t be burying it. It seems according to this peer reviewed study that MRNA boosters are counter productive.
     
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    I’m just glad that boosters were never mandated…
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I got the first two Pfizer jabs and when I developed chest pains I said F no to the boosters.

    The virus China developed and INTENTIONALLY spread around the world should not go unpunished, but with Joe ‘my middle name is owned by China’ Biden that will never happen.
     
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    WOW! All I can say is,

    ALL HAIL XI
     
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    I brought this up when the vaccine addicts were running to the needle every time some vaccine pusher rang the dinner bell!!!

     
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    I too got the 1st two shots with the Pfizer vaccine. It exacerbated existing diabetic neuropathies in me and I never got a single booster since.
     
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    China's in the process of getting ****ed royally right now. Don't you worry
     
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    Clearly you were and are right. Now the majority of current Covid fatalities are among those with the vaccine AND all the boosters so far.
     
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    Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving regime. I do feel for the ordinary freedom loving civilian over there though
     
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    Maybe this will teach them not to **** with mother nature.
     
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    Breaking news! Vaccine booster induces immune response!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Totally bro. Nothing says American compassion like applauding the misery and death of others, as you seem to be doing.
     
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    There is a lil more, come on, you can do it ;)
     
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    Please, explain it to me.
     
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    Applauding the misery of China's elected officials? Absolutely.
     
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    I guess you haven't read or missed the leftist posts alluding to how pleased some here are that the anti-vaccine may succumb to the virus.. Sure, they were all deleted but the more elusive ones may still be around..
     
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    You're not, reading the entire thread here?
     
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    This is true but misrepresents the data. When accounting for per capita vaccination rates, vaccinated individuals over 15 years of age are 15 times less likely to die due to COVID than an individual that isn’t

    https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status


    I support anyone not wanting to get the vaccine to not do so but implore all independent or democrats that are on the fence to do their research and work with your trusted medical professional to make a decision based on your individual needs.
     
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    I have.

    What I suspect is happening is folks are taking a snippet of information and claiming it reinforces their anti-science beliefs, but no one really has read the paper nor understands it.
     
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    I give up. What is it called?
     
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    Okay.
     
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    You guys can keep up your anti-vaxx claptrap, and cite papers that you don;t really understand, however, the fact is that the vaccines saved millions of lives in the US alone:

    https://www.commonwealthfund.org/bl...es-prevented-millions-deaths-hospitalizations

    Now, did variants develop that evaded immunity? Absolutely, and we always knew that Sars-Cov2, as a retrovirus, just like HIV, likely has the ability to mutate rapidly. Now, we are lucky it doesn't mutate as fast as HIV, but it is still fast enough to render vaccines less effective over time.

    Therefore, it is great that we now have an ACTUAL treatment in the form of protease inhibitors, i.e. paxlovid. Since the cysteine in the binding site is conserved, the virus cannot overcome inhibition by mutation as easily. We know that from HIV, too. Why doctors are not prescribing paxlovid more often, resulting in 2000+ deaths per day due to covid, I don't understand.
     
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    LoL.... if you are vaccinated, you do not qualify for this medication (unless you have some other pre-existing condition). Paxlovid is only for the pure bloods. How do you like the government punishing you for doing what they told you? This is just hilarious.

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    https://www.cvs.com/content/pharmacy/covid-treatment/?icid=hero-pax-screener
     
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    You think I’m anti vax? Lol! I’m vaccinated. No boosters though. I am anti vax mandate. Anti mask mandate too but not anti people choosing to use them. I’m the establishment’s worst enemy. Vaccinated but standing with everyone including the unvaccinated to freely make their own choices with no repercussions from any government or business
     
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