Pilot says planes couldn't have been flown the way they were flown

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  1. Blues63

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    Incorrect. There is a mountain of evidence in support of reality. That meme is long dead.

    They have been investigated to the satisfaction of the insurance companies. Hell, what do you want?

    Incorrect. See the evidence for the Moussaoui trial (link below)

    It is if you want it to be. Argument from incredulity.

    Incorrect. See the evidence for the Moussaoui trial. http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/

    Your absolutely certain that your opinion is correct. Excellent.
     
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    But your said yourself you're not interested in the sources, so what's the point? You want me to post material that you will just dismiss without question? Why would I bother with someone who will do that?
     
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    The parking lot images prove no such thing sorry.

    The walls of the pentagon looked like a large plane struck them,

    Those components you demand were found and produced long ago.

    All of this and more proves the Pentagon was hit by AA77 and it is YOUR standard of proof

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    Yes there is it has been publically produced and displayed for years now
     
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    NYC has millions of people many of whom saw the crash and out of tens of thousands of witnesses you will always have conflicting and contradictory accounts so those few witnesses you refer to mean............nothing.

    It is not difficult for anyone to fly and aircraft into a building.

    The rest is just your speculation
     
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    No video tape of any of the passengers boarding any of the alleged murder weapons have been produced. Your link does not contain any such evidence. In the real world when a mass murder is committed, the police would have that evidence the next day, and it would be a matter of public record soon thereafter. The fact that there is no airport security tapes of any terrorists or their victims boarding any of the planes is a huge red flag. What are they hiding? The best explanation that I have heard for the past 14 years is that the cameras were not functioning at any of the airports where the attacks originated. That's a variation of the old "dog ate my homework" gag. I don't buy it. Neither should you.
     
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    Yes, they have security tapes of some of the hijackers boarding.
     
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    Well that's an outright lie.

    Hate to ruin your day but several vidoes were produced immediately after 911 which clearly show specific hijackers boarding the aircraft.

    No one needed a video of the victims boarding.

    The facts prove you wrong like all twoofers
     
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    Let's see the film champ.....First you call me a liar....Then you say the film is readily available....Then you say that no one needed film of the victims boarding.....Then you make a lame attempt to insult me by calling me a silly name.....So either link me to a video showing the terrorists and the victims boarding ANY of the alleged murder weapons or just (*)(*)(*)(*)!
     
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    Goodness, are you suggesting that an argument from sheer credulousness is somehow better than "an argument from incredulity"? Are you saying that the more credulous one is the more convincing his argument? I sure hope not, but it sounds like that is what you're saying.

    The wreckage shown to the media, and thus the public, contained parts of one small turbine engine, NO large turbine engines, and the wrong and much too small landing gear. Nothing about it looks like a 757.

    So you may believe that fantasy story, but I do not.

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    Pictures of certain people walking through an airport terminal is NOT any sort of proof that the person boarded any given flight.
     
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    No it has never been done. No tapes that show the alleged terrorists or the other passengers have been produced on these threads or anywhere else. I know how law enforcement reacts to a homicide, let alone a mass murder like we had on 9-11-01. All activity in the boarding areas would be closely scrutinized to ascertain whether the murderers were collaborating with others at the terminals. The absence of these tapes is a giant red flag regarding the investigation or lack thereof regarding this mass murder. Your claim that there is such footage is not backed up by the evidence. Either produce the tape or explain why it has been withheld from the public for over 13 years.
     
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    You are out right lying

    They have been produced over and over and you have seen them.
     
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    That is correct. Notice how these trolls just resort to name calling and never produce any credible evidence to refute my claim. Soupnazi even resorts to screwing up my posts and reversing who posted remarks. I have been asking for this simple proof of exactly who was aboard these planes for at least 10 years and none of the official trolls can come up with any footage or stills that show these alleged terrorists getting on these planes. It is my understanding that the security company ICTS, a foreign company based out of Amsterdam was in charge of security and they claim that the cameras were not functioning at any of the airports that day. Sounds like a bunch of crap to me. Why the hell would we put foreigners in charge of airport security here in the US? Makes no sense to me.
     
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    Just because you keep saying something over and over does not make it so champ. This is what I call the Pee Wee Herman: "I know you are but what am I" method. It might work on a grade school recess ground but not here.

    You are the one that is obviously "outright lying". Produce the tape or admit it.
     
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    What I'm suggesting is that just because YOU have a tough time believing it,that has no bearing on the facts......So yeah your incredulity means squat


    you mean turbine engines with fragile fan blades that would break off iin a crash?if it was all the wrong size,and looks nothing like a 757,why did the black boxes come from the plane that crashed?


    You're regurgitating the same truther pablum disproven YEARS ago,and being a jerk about it as well.
     
  20. Soupnazi

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    It is you acting the way you describe not me.

    These threads have been around for years. Not one piece of evidence refutes, challenges or disputes the official story.

    The evidence proving it has been produced by many over and over again.

    You asked for proof, it was shown to you. You then waited a while and denied it exists and demand it again.

    Stop acting like you are informed and stop acting childish
     
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    They did scrutinize the evidence we know what happened and it is proven.

    Only knee jerk fools make the claims you make
     
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    If there were any such footage, you would produce it. The fact that you are just spewing crap here shows what you are all about. Produce the evidence or admit that it doesn't exist. You are not making any points here. You are exposing yourself as an ignorant troll. Thanks
     
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    It has been produced and you know it.

    The ignorant is one who has seen it and ignored it waits a while and then denies it and demands it all over again.

    This is exactly what you are doing
     
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    In other words, you don't have it, and will not admit that you are wrong. The reason you can not produce this footage is because it is not available. The only verifiable footage is of Atta at the Portland Maine airport on 911. The footage from the boarding areas from the origins of the alleged murder planes has been withheld from the public. I for one wonder why.
     
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    No you are lying again.

    You have demanded them , they have been produced , you have seen them.

    Nothing was withheld .
     

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