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  1. Bowerbird

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    Lols! The UK has the same population density as do may of our larger cities. It has nothing to do with population as there is no correlation between population and murder rate. There is however a strong correlation between gun legislation and murder rate within the USA
     
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    Then you shouldn’t use the term body politic.


    The body politic is the entire US population.

    You made a comment about the body politic of the USA. Again, perhaps you are just using words you don’t know the meaning of. But now you do.

    Lots of learning going on. Now ya’ll know what the body politic is and what empire is.
     
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    No correlation between population density and murder rate in the US?

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/...ie-at-higher-rates-than-those-in-urban-areas/

    Not just homicide but all violent crime.

    https://usafacts.org/articles/where-are-crime-victimization-rates-higher-urban-rural-areas/

     
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    Duh! That is per 100,000 AND our murder rate DID go down!
     
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    Paywalled and I did not make myself clear. No correlation between overall population and crime. Since I talked of population density I thought it would be clear I was not referring to that
     
  6. Bush Lawyer

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    Matey, read your own definition. My comment was not about a complete political group.

    "SMH"
     
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    Nothing is paywalled that I linked to.

    Can you clarify exactly what your point is about population? You use density in one sentence and then population in the next I don’t know how you are measuring overall population. Population of where? Are you referring to the fact NYC has a higher population than St. Louis but a lower murder rate? If so, then I would agree in that case. But the ten cities with the lowest murder rates in the US are all much smaller than NYC. So the “no correlation between population and murder” only holds true in chosen situations. Not in others.
     
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    The body politic of the US is a complete political group. By definition.

    And you posted the thread in the POLITICAL OPINIONS AND BELIEFS subforum. Is your defense now that you posted your diatribe on the body politic of the US in the wrong forum?

    It’s not my definition. I’m not a dictionary.
     
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    Trump has NEVER been convicted of any crime in any criminal court in the nation. You do have a right, though, to your meaningless OPINION.
     
  10. Bush Lawyer

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    "Here we go round the mulberry, the mulberry bush......"
     
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    Correct.

    Yet he is a rapist, a swindler, and bordering on pathological, all decisions of a US Court.
     
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    It will end one minute regardless of its course if past performance of nation states is predictive of future results. Formative it will be remembered as the nation state that was most instrumental toward facilitating the transition from nation states to corporate states. However this terminology is dated to my polisci classes of 80s vintage. It didn't quite account for the politics of India and China. Civilizations' political evolution looks a lot like the movie Elysium to me.
     
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    Civil court can no more make those decisions than traffic court can convict you of murder.

    It takes a CRIMINAL COURT CONVICTION to declare anyone a criminal. The personal opinion of a traffic court judge that someone is a murderer is just like a civil court judge's personal opinion... or your opinion... or mine.

    Until a CRIMINAL COURT CONVICTION(S) holds that he is a criminal... he is not one.

    And Trump has never been CONVICTED OF ANY CRIME IN ANY CRIMINAL COURT IN THE NATION.
     
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    A civil Court has, within its jurisdiction found him*** to be a rapist, a swindler and bordering on pathological. Fact of life, undeniable.

    Largely, all true, except a Jury made the rape finding. Yes, it was a civil jury.

    100% true, even for Humpty***.


    We are in violent agreement., what you say there about Humpty*** is true....for now.

    *Rapist
    *Swindler
    *Bordering on pathological
     
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    The jealousy and the hatred of the United States is palpable. It's deliciously entertaining to watch people hate on my country that can't do anything but bark their opinions on the internet
     
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    You obviously have no idea what the difference is between a civil and a criminal court:
    "In the United States, civil courts have the authority to resolve disputes between individuals or entities, excluding criminal matters."
    (Understanding the Jurisdiction and Powers of Civil Courts in the United States ▷ Law Education - Rey Abogado)

    "civil courts are designed to resolve differences when private individuals or businesses can no longer reach an agreement on their own. Criminal courts are designed to determine whether a person has violated a criminal law (a law against harming or endangering others or their property) and, if so, punish the offender." (Civil Court vs. Criminal Court | CriminalDefenseLawyer.com)

    Only a CRIMINAL COURT can decide if someone is a "rapist" or a "swindler". Only a mental health professional can make such judgements about being "pathological". Fact of life... and LAW... undeniable.
     
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    Yes, 33 years in Law and I have no idea.

    We are in violent agreement.



    Incorrect. A civil court, as part of deciding disputes between Humpty*** and others, made the find of rape and swindling.

    Yes, the conclusion of bordering on pathological was from a Judge who is not is mental health professional, just like Hur is not a mental health professional.

    *Rapist
    *Swindler
    *Bordering on pathological[/quote]
     
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    Come on FB. NOTHING to do with "hate" or "jealousy". It is just feedback about how the country is perceived world wide. The US has no problem trashing other nations, or considering itself so superior to other places. What it fails to realize is that it is just different. And differences are a good thing. All nations have their own uniqueness and positive points. To keep it in perspective......compared to other nations, this country is probably a "teenager".......( all hormones and still finding its direction) What it needs is forward thinking leadership...that sets goals and then works to achieve them.
     
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    [/QUOTE]
    When I quoted: ""In the United States, civil courts have the authority to resolve disputes between individuals or entities, excluding criminal matters."
    you said that we were in violent agreement.
    Then you go on to say the CIVIL COURT "made the find of rape and swindling". Well which is it? You can't have it both ways.

    Right. Hur is no health professional either.

    33 years in law? Any CRIMINAL COURT time?
     
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    America's government is one of the oldest in the world. Britain's government is older but I can't think of any other. In that regard, we are a relatively old (wise) nation.
     
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    [/QUOTE]

    Bordering on pathological is not an official "diagnosis". It is a lay persons description of a person who is demonstrating dysfunctional behavior/ verbiage. People (in various professions know enough psychology) to be able to identity issues when they see them.
    When it comes down t it.....the average person SHOULD be aware of dysfunctional behavior in friends or family............ and yet not be capable of "diagnosing" them. Identifying that a problem exists means getting help earlier , which is best for the person in question.

    And yes, Trump has problems. to a pathological degree. ( narcissism, paranoia, manipulative behavior (to an extreme) and sociopathy. ( he does not learn from previous experience, does not have remorse , guilt, and only projects his issues on everyone around him...........particularly those he feels wounded him. His PATHOLOGICAL lying is a big problem...........as he seems to believe his own fiction.......and that makes him delusional. ( which he is..........irrational and not based in reality. )
     
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    I don't think being preached at about what rights I should and should not have by a citizen of another country is remotely relevant
     
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    Bordering on pathological is not an official "diagnosis". It is a lay persons description of a person who is demonstrating dysfunctional behavior/ verbiage. People (in various professions know enough psychology) to be able to identity issues when they see them.
    When it comes down t it.....the average person SHOULD be aware of dysfunctional behavior in friends or family............ and yet not be capable of "diagnosing" them. Identifying that a problem exists means getting help earlier , which is best for the person in question.

    And yes, Trump has problems. to a pathological degree. ( narcissism, paranoia, manipulative behavior (to an extreme) and sociopathy. ( he does not learn from previous experience, does not have remorse , guilt, and only projects his issues on everyone around him...........particularly those he feels wounded him. His PATHOLOGICAL lying is a big problem...........as he seems to believe his own fiction.......and that makes him delusional. ( which he is..........irrational and not based in reality. )[/QUOTE]
    Trump gave us cheaper gas, less inflation, a stronger military, a more secure border, no new wars... all those things helped me and my family become safer and more prosperous. I don't care if he screws aardvarks.

    If he's good for my family... he gets my vote. He can sit in the darks and play solitaire with imaginary cards if he wants. As long as he makes my family safe and prosperous.
     
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    When I quoted: ""In the United States, civil courts have the authority to resolve disputes between individuals or entities, excluding criminal matters."
    you said that we were in violent agreement.
    Then you go on to say the CIVIL COURT "made the find of rape and swindling". Well which is it? You can't have it both ways.

    Right. Hur is no health professional either.

    33 years in law? Any CRIMINAL COURT time?[/QUOTE]

    15 of those 33 years. Every day, in Court.
     
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    15 of those 33 years. Every day, in Court.[/QUOTE]
    When I quoted: ""In the United States, civil courts have the authority to resolve disputes between individuals or entities, excluding criminal matters."
    you said that we were in violent agreement.
    Then you go on to say the CIVIL COURT "made the find of rape and swindling". Well which is it? You can't have it both ways.
     

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