David Ray Griffin, who has been reporting the truth through 10 years worth of books, videos, and touring the country and the world, trying to expose as many as he can to the truth of that day. He released an "open letter" recently to try and awaken sleeping America. The points that conflict with the "official" story are highlighted here (complete with references): http://www.consensus911.org/the-911-consensus-points/ Take off the blinders for a minute or two folks, and check out the truth. You'll feel good about it in the morning.
Check out the truth?....please,all griffin has done is rehashed his universally debunked 'theories' all over again,obviously with the intent of 'If I say it enough,it becomes true' Ask yourself this.....In ten years, how much has griffin made off the 9/11 tragedy?
Who would have made at least as much, regardless of the contents of the report, and frankly would have probably sold a lot more copies if the report contained some heretofore unforeseen bombshell, like that the government was responsible. The publishers of the physical, bound, 9/11 Commission Report had absolutely no stake whatsoever in the contents of the report.
Good grief. Griffin's assumptions and "best evidence" has more holes in it than a block of Swiss cheese. An example http://ae911truth.info/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/drg_nist_review_2_1.pdf Heavily referenced and footnoted. With no accompanying books or DVDs. Griffin is not a scientist. He is a a professor of theology and philosophy of religion. He is outside his area of expertise here, I am afraid. And if you're interested in A Bibliography Of Scientific Literature On The World Trade Center Collapse, you can find that here. http://sites.google.com/site/911science/
Well, since you can view or download the entire 9/11 Commission Reprort for free I doubt any publishers made much money on it. But then I don't know how many people would pay to read what Griffin wrote either, so you may have a valid point as to which publication made more money for the publisher.
It doesn't change the fact, even if I were to assume your fact is true, not exactly a safe assumption given the free and open availability of the Report in other locations. It makes the fact irrelevant as a response to what the poster you were replying to was arguing, that is, that Griffin only makes money and only has prominence because he continues to push his bogus theories of 9/11. If Griffin was a person who believed the generally accepted account, like me for example, he would not have that income. Therefore, he has a strong financial incentive at this point to ignore any evidence which discounts the theory that he sells books on. The publishers of the 9/11 Commission Report, as I explained, have no such incentive. Whatever the 9/11 Commission decided to report, they had the contract to print it, even if it was just 500 pages of unintelligible punctuation marks. Your statement would have been equally irrelevant if you had compared his earnings to, say, the lion tamer of the Barnum and Bailey Circus. And that makes your statement non-responsive to this query: (putting aside, for a moment, that to answer the question, your post should have been in the form of a number)
Yes...and don't forget the ten years worth of, and continuing "additional notes" to keep the waters continually muddy.
Actual scientists, and people that are genuinely interested in the truth, are willing to reexamine their position upon collection of new evidence and information. Demagogues, such as the 9/11 Deniers, find one idea and stick with it, (*)(*)(*)(*) the torpedoes, full speed ahead. 9/11 will always be an "inside job" to them no matter how much evidence comes up against that concept, because that's their original thought, and it's stuck on them.
You would be wrong then. WW Norton publishing company made millions and millions in pure profit. Exactly. Truthers like Griffin and such can't even remotely compare in terms of profiteering from the tragedy. Offense contractors were the biggest beneficiaries of 9/11 related gains.. Then you had this publishing company that made a few million selling the tale. Which is why I always wonder when people complain about people selling a few T shirts and DvD's, who make relative chump change.
I've proven to you already the critical chunk of heresay contained in the report and the fact that the hard copy was a bestseller which raked in millions in profit, in other thread... And you didn't have an answer. So I should hope you KNOW this to be a fact now. What so now it's an asumption.. So you're saying if it's a true fact, then it's not a safe assumption? ? If the official heresay report is freely available, that's great, but it doesn't change the fact that they still sell books. Just as I'm sure you can probably read some of Griffin's exciting stuff for free as well! Even though he sells a book or two on the side as well. Yeah I understand this.. As far as I know, Griffin hasn't hit the seventh figure yet. Really?? Can you show me the verbiage from the contract that says that the publisher have to print it no matter what it says? Yeah if the lion tamer were selling copies of his latest tall tales book about 9/11.
Pure profit? You mean there were no expenses incurred in the printing of the book? Was the paper, ink, electricity to run the presses, the labor, etc. all donated? And if he can't will that prove that they didn't? Are the terms of the contract private or public? They are publishers. They print books. That's how they make money. The fact that a publisher printed bound copies of the 9/11 Commission Report does not change the fact that Griffin is not a scientist. He is a a professor of theology and philosophy of religion. He is outside his area of expertise, has been discredited but is still trying to make a buck spreading distortions and misinformation.
Of course not.. They made millions in profit, i.e. after the associated costs and overhead were deducted from their sales revenues, they were still left with millions in profit to stick into their pockets. THIS leftover money that's still there after all costs are paid is "pure profit". No but it will prove his argument as baseless and speculative conjecture. I would then ask him, if he's not got the contract at hand, then how he is privvy to the information about what the contractual terms are in order to make the argument that he did about the specific contractual terms. I have no idea.. They are probably private.. I doubt there's some website that you can just read it.. Maybe with a FOIA request or something.. I don't know frankly. Exactly... Griffin's not the only one making money off such 9/11 tall tale books. I'm not too familiar with Griffin's works to comment about if he has credentials to say the things he does or not.. I'm not sure really. Nevertheless this isn't even the argument I was disputing.. It was claimed he has no credibility because he is making a profit by selling books, him lacking credibility due to lack of necessary credentials is an entirely different argument.
