Police Brutality

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  1. TheImmortal

    TheImmortal Well-Known Member

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    You’re talking about a tiny minority. I mean in any context it’s a tiny minority.

    Cops kill approximately 100 blacks per year. That includes people who are actively violent like a hostage situation. There are approximately 15,000 murders per year in the US (over half of which are committed by blacks). If we assume all 100 of those police killings were murders, that’s a rate of .7%.

    If we take into consideration how many millions of contacts police through the nation have with black people every year and compare that to the number of blacks killed in those interactions, the percentage becomes infinitesimally small. We have approximately 53 million police contacts every year in this country with 6M of those being black people. Out of that 6,000,000 contacts approximately 100 blacks were killed in the year giving us a rate of .0017%.

    How much lower do you expect we can get it? It will never be 0.0%. But .7% of all murder or less than .0017% of police interactions per year is pretty close to perfect. If we take into account the WRONGFUL death by police instead of considering all 100 deaths as murders, the number becomes absurdly small.

    How much lower do you folks expect it can get?
     
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    Your number does not include those cases in which contributory negligence claims leads to a successful lawsuit where police conduct leads to civil liability. I want them to stop behaving in ways that lead to death, or contribute to pain, suffering etc as well
     
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    There are 1200 cases of police brutality per year out of 53,000,000 interactions with the public. That is a rate of .0023%. And that’s including ALL reported cases of police brutality as well as the ones where the cops are exonerated.

    How much lower do you expect it can go? I mean .0023% is pretty damn close to 0. I mean that’s about as close to perfect as anyone could expect to be.
     
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    The MSM always refers to the looting and burning protesters as "mostly peaceful protests". So shouldn't they also refer to the cops attempting to stop the looting and burning as "mostly peaceful cops"?
     
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    One of the few times I agree with you.
     
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    It is not all about body count. It is the aggression, the domination, the enforcement of submission, at all levels, not just when the cop takes out his gun.
     
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    The only acceptable answer is zero. One incident of police brutality is one too much.

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    The same amount the perps get from the cops which is a zero tolerance policy.
     
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    And that’s what we have, hence why there are four cops in jail with charges. But you don’t burn down a system that has a .0023% police brutality rate over the actions of the .0023%. That’s insanity
     
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    oppression takes the form of fining people for not wearing a seatbelt because the cops have decided they need to save you from yourself..
     
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    You understand that a 0% rate is impossible to achieve right?
     
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    The cops didn’t decide that congress and state legislatures did.
     
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    The burning I am sure is from another faction of paid agitators that show up with other massive protests.Don't leave out the firebugs or arsonist that are addicted to setting fires yet care not for politics.
     
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    Then why does the war on drugs call for a zero percent tolerance?
     
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    Of which police unions support and introduce legislation and lobby for its passage.
     
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    I don’t mean literally burn. I mean you don’t protest a system with a .0017% police brutality rate. You charge the .0017% and you be thankful for a system where the 99.99% doesnt result in police brutality.
     
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    There can be no "bad apples".

    I understand that people have been apologists for cops for way to long. With qualified immunity, they are usually not held accountable for their actions. They need to be.

    If it can't get it to zero, then they need disbanded and a market solution will need to present itself.

    You can say when it comes to cops, I have a zero tolerance policy.
     
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    When can we get them to stop violating 4th amendment asset forfeiture without due process?
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    When do the pigs stop being criminals?
     
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    So are you under the impression the market solution will result in a 0.0% rate?

    If not then what is an acceptable rate?
     
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    They’re criminals at a .0017% rate. Which means that 99.9983% of the time cops are not engaging in criminal behavior. How much better do you want it?
     
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    Have you seen any unicorns lately?
     
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    I want them to stop what they are dong wrong just like they want me to do as such 100% percent of the time.
     
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    No, I am under the impresion that a market solution will not only result in better numbers, but will result in business owners and the private police being held accountable.

    Amy government institutions which infringes upon the rights of people have no news to exist.
     
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    How much better do you think it can get than .0017%? What rate is acceptable?
     
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    Oh, also what is the source for your numbers?
     
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