POLL: A sensible poll on the best way forward

Now that we have struck a deal with Iran, we need to learn to work with them. We may not like them, but you do not make peace with your friends.

As long as Iran, on a verified basis, sticks to the deal, then we should open up to Iran.

What do you think is the most important thing that we should do with Iran?

 

I voted for cooperation on ISIS.

 

To work with Iran against ISIS ... [the enemy of my enemy ... you know ...].

1. Start international trade with Iran ... not all Western countries have stopped it ...
2. Get the Iranians and Israelis talking ... about what? Last soccer season?
4. Re-open American embassy there ... first require Iranians to give you back the former FBI agent still missing in Iran ...

 

If I were in charge, I would tell iran that as far as we are concerned, a reset with iran has been pushed. We will allow them to trade, to join in with the modern world, open our embassy there and trust them, but verify. We will do nothing to risk their national security.

But if they start to appear to become interested in taking land, or becoming belligerent towards anyone that is leaving them alone, that we will destroy their nation, try and execute their rulers, and leave it up to their people to rebuild iran. Given them an offer they cannot refuse. And leave it up to them.

This gives them the opportunity to join the modern world, or be destroyed. No strings attached to this agreement,which means our MNCs and banking cabal are out of the picture.

 

We need to start somewhere with the Iranians. I am not a great fan of Iran, but have changed my views and now see cooperation as the best way forward.

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Yes, a carrot and stick approach can bring results. But we should start with the carrot and see if they are willing to re-enter the international community.

 

So far poll results suggest that working with Iran against ISIS would be a good start. I agree. ISIS is an immediate problem for all of us. Should we come to a successful conclusion in our joint efforts with Iran against ISIS, we can then move on to other issues, such as bringing the Iranians and Israelis to the peace table.

 

The israelis never really make peace. The arabs know that. Peace talks are a waste of time and money and only provide opportunities for Israel to make false agreements. Which only makes the arabs more irate.

 

Pipe dreams. Anyone who thinks Iran can be "worked with" is just naive. Iran has proven itself to untrustworthy and out for nothing but the destruction of others. The result of "working with" them will only result in them being more powerful when they will have to be dealt with from a military standpoint. Idiocy.

 

You forgot : None of the above. They cannot be trusted. They will work to attack us in one way shape or form.

 

The Israelis want peace. They just want to be left alone. But that's hard to do when enemies keep launching rockets into Israeli towns.

It's the Muslims that won't sign a peace agreement. The Palestinians won't sign any paper that says Israel has a right to exist. Palestinians will never accept a "two state" solution.

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Yes.

Iran is the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world. And we think we are so great that we can change them? That's crazy.

 

They want to be left alone but not leave alone. That's the problem. Ashkenazi are incapable of compromise.

 

You may be right. The reason for Israeli behavior is the security environment it finds itself in. To this extent I empathise with your point.

On the other hand, as a Jew and Israeli and US citizen, I cannot see how we can compromise with terrorists.

This is a complicated issue and there are no absolute truths.

 

There is certainly a great deal of truth in what you say. I do agree with you in general terms.

On the other hand, despite Iran's untrustworthiness, we are actively monitoring their deal compliance. Iran has a great deal to lose by failing to comply and will open the doors to a military attack by us if it doesn't.

We don't need to trust Iran. We need to verify.

 

I wish that were the case but according to just about anybody with credibility this is a very bad deal that makes verification nearly impossible. It is naive to believe Iran is trustworthy and it is doubly naive to think the Obama administration is not lying to us.

 

It's a pity that you didn't give a choice of "All the above".

 

I've never spoken to an online Jew about this and not had them go berserk. You are a rarity.

 

Thank you for reaching out. As with most things, there are no absolute truths. It is generally a matter of shades of grey.

 

This is a good point. There is certainly scope for all of them.

 

what are u saying?

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oh, i see. so all Jews think the same?

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wow, maybe you should lay off the attacks

 

so you prefer genocide?

 

The deal hasn't been voted on yet. Hopefully it won't pass. I'll be watching to see which Republicans if any vote for it.

The deal is a fool's deal they made with a gullible idiot, a traitor, or both. Btw, I the option I would've chosen isn't in the poll.

 

I understand your reservations about the deal and indeed would have completely agreed with you but a matter of weeks ago. I do empathise with your position. The Republicans are likely to put up solid opposition to the deal and that's why it is definitely up to President Obama to explain that this is not about trusting Iran per se. The deal is not reliant upon trust, since the facts on the ground will be monitored and verified continuously.

If it was not for the verification procedure, I would hold the position I used to hold, which is exactly the same as yours.

You are right though... we will all be watching the Republicans.

 

You're joking right? The 'deal' includes Iran policing THEMSELVES. That's like the fox saying nothing's going on in the hen house. I agree with Trump. We have stupid, stupid leaders. The SOB didn't even get the prisoners freed yet crowed like a rooster about getting a traitor in return for five high-ranking terrorists. Obama is an idiot who impressed the white elites with his speaking ability and nothing more.

 

You are very correct in that there will be some self-policing by the Iranians, to ensure that they do not fall foul of the deal stipulations. If this was the extent of it, then the deal would be a very bad deal indeed and would deserve to fall flat. But we also have continuous monitoring by the IAEA and others; one slip up and the deal dies.... moreover, one slip up and Iran runs the risk of being attacked militarily.

It is therefore in the Iranian interest that the deal is stuck to. We will not need to trust the Iranians. Everything is confirmed, or not, through direct verification.

I do agree with you that Obama has impressed many people and has also done the opposite with others. I have my reservations about Obama too, and understand and also feel your anger about him as an individual. But the deal is a good one, and I wish to see it being implemented.

 

in the most Iran nuclear deal, that the world just finished negotiating, there is ZERO self-inspection by the Iranians.

you guys are talking about a seperate deal, negotiated by the UN, dealing with one single site. this is totally unrelated to the most recent deal and sanctions relief plan.