Poll: Nearly 6 in 10 Republicans say they will not vote for any candidate who admits Biden won 'fair

You don't think our PFers who advocate for secession or talk of civil war wouldn't join in? (heehee)

 

Anybody who talks about civil war is a moron.

Conservative Trump supporters who I agree with more of the time(I voted for Trump) have disgusted me with that kind of rhetoric. They talk about our country like it is a back water crap hole. Many want to downsize the republican party to include only Trump ball huggers. That only helps the democrat party.

 

They cannot get their asses off the couch.

 

Is this evidence that the Republican's base is crazy? Or does this mean that most of the rational voting majority have left the Republican party? I guess we'll find out in the next election.

 

So, what is your definition of "fair and square"?

 

Who is advocating for civil war?

 

Don't forget that even the Bushes voted for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump in the 2016 election.

 

How does this answer my question? Can you answer it? Or can you only deflect?

 

I assume that by fair and square you want to argue that the election of president Biden was due to massive voting fraud. But I don't believe you because I voted by mail in ballot in the last election and I needed to provide id.

 

If you follow along with the posts to which I'm responding, you'd understand the reference.

 

So you're definition of "fair and square" is...no voting fraud? You might want to know that I don't believe that the Democratic Party tried to commit voter fraud.

 

Well, what is your definition of fair and square? I just got into the thread topic and don't know what you're talking about.

 

I have missed any calls for civil war. Do you have message #s for any of them?

 

My point is that what is "fair and square" is subjective. Even though I don't believe that Democratic Party committed fraudulent votes I do believe that the election was not "fair and square". For instance, what was admitted to here: LINK: The Secret Bipartisan Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election | Time definitely made the election not "fair and square". Does that mean that I'm "crazy"?

 

Well, that article talks about how Trump almost overturned our democracy and it took a major effort by everyone to preserve our free elections. Now, I know that some of the stuff done, like censorship of social media, may ruffle some feathers on Republican voters, but overall it kept a lot of lies to fool voters out of the election.

Anyway, if it's any consolation, the pro-democracy movement may have won their first battle but lost the war. Many of the voting process achievements like no excuse mail-in ballots have been taken away from the people. And in my home county, of Suffolk County, New York, the voters here rejected making it permanent. And, in addition to that, it seems like Republicans are going to sweep into power in the next election, 2022. And, maybe even Trump will run again in 2024.

 

53, 58, 62

 

On this thread? I could not find a quote calling for civil war. Just opposition to the idea of civil war.

Did I miss something?

 

I agree. Trump told us exactly what his agenda is.

 

I don't consider myself a moron.

The problem is Trump has deepened the divide between the parties and our people. Half the country believes his made up story about widespread election fraud. The only "significant" fraud is him.

People are harassing election workers at their regular jobs, homes and sometimes their kids' schools.

People are getting into physical confrontations with strangers about wearing a mask or not wearing a mask.

There is absolutely no way that anybody paying attention can't see his agenda. I don't know if it's for China or Russia, but I'm damn sure it's NOT for the US.

 

How is this all Trump's fault? Libs are the ones attacking people on planes over masks. Libs want the pandemic to last forever. Libs are the ones who want to shut down speech.



Trump deserves some fault of course it cost him an election as middle voters, moderates, independents and libertarians voted for Biden. They wanted the noise to go away.

Honestly it takes a lot of nerve. Slandering our country every chance you libs get. Everything is racist. Even roads now. Blacks cannot go to the bathroom without a government program? Cannot carry ID like every other American?

Senile white supremacist Joe Biden lecturing America on race. Blacks no better off than in 1870!


Why can't we be more like Japan and Germany? You know sans the rioting with kids learning math?

Now we have to ignore criminal activity to help out the inner city retards.

 

You see the lame approach? Label any speech that the great democrat party does not approve of as insurrectionist or racist! Then ban it!

Soviet one party rule is the result.

Something wrong with these people. I'm watching this Japanese American judicial appointment getting questioned. She apparently thinks she is an oppressed minority.

 

The dems never called an election stolen right? Just 2000, 2004 and 2016.

Even used the mega rich and the corporatists media to push some totally made up bullcrap about Russian collusion.

 

I'm not partisan.

Can you please quote me on when I said "all this is Trump's fault"?

None of this has anything to do with my post.

If Trump was "just noise" it probably would have been tolerable. Maybe like having to choke down liver and onions as a kid but survivable.

Spoiler alert: It wasn't just him being a windbag.

Again, I'm not partisan. I would hate Trump under any letter and every day for the rest of my life and I can count on one hand how many I actually hate.

Your anger is blinding your critical thinking. You can't speak to what someone else finds racist and minimizing their voices contributes to the problem your side says doesn't exist.

I don't like Biden either but I feel very confident that he's not a maladapted psychopath. Choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil but those of us that fired Trump felt more comfortable with the devil that isn't trying to end our country and plant himself as Dear Leader for life, removing all our rights and creating a Trump Dynasty for centuries to come.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/02/politics/donald-trump-dictators-kim-jong-un-vladimir-putin/index.html

This is unrelated to my comment as well. However, I'll comment.

We can't be more like Japan and Germany because of you and your ilk. You're all extremely hateful toward anything and everything except Trump and nobody wants to discuss the real issues. You just want to sling mud and you have the right to sling mud. You just can't expect those of us it's aimed at to stand there and take it without complaint because, as much as you and your ilk hate it, we have the exact same rights and we know how to use them without hatred.

I don't know what you're talking about and I don't care what you're talking about, but, in general, I would conclude that whatever it is, your comment is your dog whistle to others like yourself. Don't worry, the echo chamber hears you loud and clear.

The rest of us know your type is <censoring myself>

 

Oh racism exists. We saw it that day in 2010 when the entire democrat party came to to honor the life of a Klansman.



Systemic racism as the democrat party describes it is total bullcrap. I can prove it with one link.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

31(31!) non white ethnic groups with higher household incomes than whites! Systemic racism is bullcrap!

 

Anybody who has read some of my posts this week might be confused about my political affiliation.

I have argued there is not significant evidence that Biden stole the election and that Trump supporters need to move on.

I have argued that based on comparative election results Trump did poorly in the 2020 election and probably is not the best person to lead the republican party in 2024.

I am a civil libertarian who will ALWAYS defend civil liberties.

I am anti war and will regularly bash neocons.

I must be one of those Trump supporting liberals?