Poor Britannia!

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  1. philosophical

    philosophical Well-Known Member

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    OK.
    The smallpox thing has become an urban myth if you like.
    What about the slaughter of the Buffalo and the forcing of people onto reservations and the claiming of ownership of land?
    Were there welcomed by most North American aboriginals as a method of bringing peace by the white European incomers?
    I have heard the word woke a lot, but don't know what it means nor do I understand why it is a label you attach to me.
     
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    UK state of mind remained in the 60s while all other countries moved on.

    There are many more people sleeping on the streets of London in 2020 than there were in the 60s.
     
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    Not saying you are 'woke' but many of your beliefs are also woke beliefs.
    Woke folk have woken up to the genocidal, sexist, racist, homophobic,
    transgenderphobic, patriarchal, imperialist "white" man.
    No forced displacement of peoples is ever a good thing. But it was done
    by ALL native people who could do it. Comanches drove out the Apaches
    with the help of Spanish horses and the odd firearm. Whites put Comanches
    onto reservations - but they didn't drive the Apaches into the sea or the
    mountains (I am related to Sarah Parker, her son was Comanche chief
    Quanah - so these things interest me.)
    Often wonder if the Aztecs would ever expand their empire into Comanche
    lands - what would have happened to those Indians? If they didn't flee they
    could have ended up in ceremonial sacrifices and/or eaten. Let's not bash
    "white" people.
     
  4. Esau

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    when bacteria grows it takes over the surrounding organisms, this is perfectly natural and the order of the universe and evolution. this is not what the british colonies did, what they did was totally alien.
     
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    you said whites dont have cannibalism. you clearly lied.
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you think that if a baby is born with "white" skin it will grow to become a "colonizer"
    but if the baby is born with brown or black skin they won't? That is:
    1 - racism
    2 - not true.

    If you read the story of inter-tribal warfare in the Americas it's quite chilling in its brutality.
    And read up on the great colonization of the Zulu with their total warfare. But without a
    doubt the absolute worst were the Mongols who killed 12% of people on earth.
     
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    I think EVERY society has serial killers? That's like saying all Austrians are incestuous rapists purely due to Joseph Fritzel.
     
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    Because we closed the asylums, because they were 'inhumane'. Britain is still the best country on earth, people literally die in their attempts to come to live here.
     
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    What, we were wrong because we were better sailors? But it's okay for you to conquer and oppress your neighbours?
     
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    God put people on Earth and commanded them to be like bacteria. Right?

    Please explain why should human beings, with conscious thought processes and conscious decision making capabilities, behave like bacteria. Also please don't tell me "because it's natural". Living in total darkness and sleeping upside down is totally and undoubtedly natural, are you doing it?

    You're basically saying that black people are bacteria. Is it just me, or is this kind of comparison really utterly racist?
     
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    It is a matter of opinion as to whether Britain is the best country on earth.
    People literally die in their attempts to get away from intolerable situations.
     
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    the facts dont care about your opinion. there is also a scientific bases for this, you should perhaps think what that maybe...
     
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    thats grate.

    you still lied though
     
  14. Esau

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    colonialism was a wicked endeavor no matter how you want to paint it to make yourself feel better.
     
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    earth is the living super organism and we are all bacteria living on it. there is good bacteria, that keeps mother earth healthy(conservationists/nature reserves) and there is bad bacteria that makes mother earth unhealthy(capitalists/pollution). we can destroy the earth or we can prolong her existence
     
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    Sure, you might be right. But you are not specific so I cannot comment.
     
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    you cannot think of a genetic reason why white nations were/are more likely to embark on colonial ventures?
     
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    I can think of a number of logical reasons to ignore your posts. Most of them seem designed to stir hatred and strife.

    The "genetic reason" argument is typically used by white supremacists.

    I'm done playing.
     
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    I can think of a number of logical reasons to ignore your posts. Most of them seem designed to stir hatred and strife.

    the genetic reason argument for White Jewish Europeans being lineal descendants of the biblical israelites in an argument used by white supremacists but isee you have no problem trotting out that fallacy at every given opportunity.

    hypocrite. its a bad idea to play with someone who knows better.
     
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    No one has a monopoly on cannabalism or not being a cannabal. Depends on whether you need to eat humans. Years ago there was a plane crash in some mountains (where I have forgotten) Everyone thought all the people were dead until one of them managed to get to a nearby town. Several of them had survived and were still alive. The big question was how on earth did they survive all that time without food. They ate their friends who had died. Likewise the Christains going off to the holy land used to eat Muslim children - no other food around or that was their excuse.
     
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    The main cultural cannibalism I know of was Meso American and Polynesian cultures.
    Also some pueblo indians too if I recall.
    These cannibal accounts were not believed on ideological grounds. We need to grow up.
     
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    Same reason as the Mongols or Zulus colonizing other people's lands - just needs and opportunities.
     
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    No idea what you are on about.
     
  24. Esau

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    thats not a genetic reason why, plus the zulu didnt colonize since the ppl of the region are all part of the Nguni culture, as are zulu.
     
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    medieval europe had cultural cannibalism in the form of medicinal cannibalism, where do you think the story of Dracula originated.
     

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