Portland PD riot control squad votes to resign after cop charged

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    Still isn't ending:
     
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    If they are that dispensable why put their safety on the line and risk criminal charges being filed against them by the city government morons that are siding with the rioters that are trying to burn down their police stations.

    You made a big deal out of the fact that they didn't resign from the force, given your attitude, why would you care if they did?

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    The mayor asked the police to cut back on the violence, the Governor asked the police to cut back on the violence, the DA asked the police to cut back on the violence, a judge ordered them to stop gassing citizens. Yet they persisted. Then a grand jury indicted one of them for his violent actions. The police involved could have changed their behavior, but they do not want to change their ways. They want to violently enforce the law.


    The irony in all of this, is that the police in Portland are one of most mellow city police departments in the country. Some would argue too mellow. The police in Clackamas County, just to the south of Portland, are far worse, far more right leaning, much more violent. But there have always been the bad eggs with violent and abusive tendencies. Unfortunately they seem to have coalesced into a single unit, those who think the police need to literally “ kick ass”. It is not sociably acceptable in Portland.
     
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    The animosity with the police began once it was revealed that certain officers had been coordinating with violent right wing gangs. It was a Portland police officer who originated the false claim that “AntiFa” was throwing concrete milkshakes. The protests were against police brutality and the police responded with brutality. I think there are others who deserve to be charged with crimes, charged with violent crimes.

    Leadership in Portland has changed, they are working on reeling in the police department. A new civilian oversight board is being set up. Social workers are being sent on calls with the police. Officers are beginning to be held accountable.







    If want a good example of how people are better off living in liberal dominated areas, Portland and Oregon have had drastically less cases of COVID-19 than just about every other city and state in the country. Both city and state have also offered economic assistance in these trying times at a greater rate than other cities and states.

    How could I ever support the Republican Party, when it is obvious that Democrats tend to do a better job than Republicans. It probably has something to do with why Republicans struggle to get elected as mayors. Nobody wants what they are peddling.
     
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    The violent Right wing gang attacks have migrated southwards. Down towards Oregon City and Salem. There are too many cameras in Portland. Their narratives and edited videos may play on right wing outlets, but those involved in keeping the city safe have been seeing a different picture. Right wing gang members have been being arrested and the Right-wing elements are being rooted out of the police department.

    By these officers quitting, they have done JoAnn Hardesty a favor. She had run on promising to dismantle the unit. They have done her job for her. There are many happy people in Portland.
     
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    Good thing as liberals do their best to avoid the authoritarian police state mentality that is so rampant in the Conservadome.
     
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    Portland's crowd-control unit resigns en masse after member indicted for assault on rioter

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    I don't know why people don't walk away from that dumpster fire. Let them become the new Detroit.
     
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    The problem is wealth. Detroit was built upon the labor needed for the automobile industry. When the factories closed the city dried up, people moved away and the city almost died. Portland, on the other hand, is a city with major growing pains. There is so much wealth and people coming into the city that the city is having difficulty keeping up. So much so that Oregon is set to receive another seat in the House of Representatives. Incomes tend to be higher than national averages. The metro area economy is well diversified, having major players in the semiconductor, financial, lumber, medical research, fashion, and video gaming industries as well as truck, train car, boat, and airplane manufacturing. Not to mention that it sits at an intersection of two major trade routes. Plus, the Portland area has some of the best fauna and flora in the country. The trees much more plentiful and much larger than elsewhere. The natural beauty of Western Oregon is greater than any other place on earth. Western Oregon is solidly Democratic because the people know, Republicans would destroy Oregon’s natural beauty, cut down all its trees, foul its rivers, and pollute its air, build destructive oil wells on our pristine beaches, sell off public lands…. Republicanism is destructive to nature, practically by design.
     
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    Say wha??? Portland has one of the SMALLEST diverse economies!


    https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/portlandcityoregon/PST045219
     
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    I’m not sure what you are trying to say here. Nothing in the Census data contradicts what I have said. In fact, the Census shows that Portland was grown by more than 12% in the last decade. I’m sure it plays into the Republican propaganda. How can conservatives and Republicanism be superior when there are places like Portland, full of liberals, and run by Democrats, who consistently economically outperform just about every conservative jurisdiction in the country. There is a lot of wealth in the Portland area. Lots and lots of million dollar homes, - the majority occupied by liberals. The Denver-Boulder area of Colorado as well as Seattle have a similar dynamic. Less religious and more educated than the rest of the country. Highly liberal leaning areas with booming economies built upon innovation. Nothing in the conservative world can compete. Of course y’all hate us.
     
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    Ignorance of elected officials. Who is in charge again? Oh yeah, Democrats. Worthless!
     
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    I think the issue in Portland is too many idiots.
     
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    Good. They should. Let the rioters burn down the areas stupid enough to vote dem, which are allowing them to continue to burn. You get what you vote for lol. The officers did the right thing when the justice system has been corrupted by mob mentality, criminalizing good officers based on nonsense.

    the officer was indicted unjustly and the heroes stood together in solidarity by stepping away from such a nonsense job.

    these heroes are hitting back by showing people what it’s like to live without them.

    way to go!

    imagine being ignorant of the facts to the point of thinking police are the problem lol.
     
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    Portland has one of the smallest minority population and smallest minority business ownership but one of the highest cost of living. The only things liberals have accomplished in Portland is making it even harder for minorities to compete and creating one the worst homeless cities in the nation. Yes, you should be proud of your liberal **** hole you created. Liberals are great at creating them.



     
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    Then don’t come here. You see what happens to the conservatives. They can’t compete and end up living in tents along side the highway and train tracks, sticking needles in their arms, and fouling our beautiful state.
     
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    I don't have to come there nor would I want to go to such a horrible place.. Those idiots are leaving places like Portland and invading my once conservative state, making it now a **** hole. How about you keep your liter in your own yard and quit infecting successful states with your racist hate and wokeness.
     
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    I have no problem imagining the ignorance. I read it here all the time. I always wonder what it is about the conservative mind that sees a police officer committing a most violent and uncalled for act, and sees no wrong doing. All my life conservatives have been telling me about how morally superior they all were. But then, as this issue clearly illustrates, when the rubber hits the road, it becomes quite obvious that morality is not a conservative trait.
     
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    Colorado was designed to be a liberal state. Read the state Constitution some time. It was the first state to allow women the vote, the first state to specifically prohibit Jim Crow laws, prayer in school was never allowed, was the first to stringently enforce environmental protections, the first state to decriminalize and then legalize marihuana. Higher education is constitutionally mandated. There is a reason that even though Colorado is the 21st largest state in population, it often ranks in the top five economically. The economy of rural Colorado is most likely greater than in most states, but as elsewhere, it pales in comparison to the economic engine that sits in its cities. Boulder is perhaps the most liberal city in America. But the whole Denver metro area, all the way up to Fort Collins has been rather liberal leaning since the beginning. And it is the economic engine that powers the Colorado economy.

    It didn’t matter all that much which candidate won the Democratic nomination, because in the last election, whichever Democrat that ran for the Senate and Governor was going to win. Colorado tends to prefer Democratic governors. There were polls that showed a wet paper bag could beat the Trump in an election in Colorado.

    You are deluding yourself if you think Colorado was ever a conservative state. Plus, you know, Colorado has adopted a voting system very similar to the one used in Oregon and Washington. Notice how, without unnecessary restrictions on voting, Republicans don’t do as well?
     
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    That was pretty stupid. Why didn't the mayor ask the a**hole rioters to cut down on being violent, the governer ask the a**holes to cut down on being violent, and the DA ask the a**holes to cut down on being violent to the cops wouldn't have to show up in the first place? I'm not sure how you think the police should respond to having molotovs/rocks/etc thrown at them while being ambushed. How should they respond?
     
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    Um... you do realize that the end of women's suffrage was vastly done by the republican vote? The majority of no votes were democrats. also, Jim Crow laws were democratic laws.

    And regarding prayer in school, apparently you've not read the Colorado bill of rights. Colorado public schools can't lead prayer, but our constitution protects those who want to pray in schools.

    And regarding environmental protections, yes, we do protect our environment and yet we are one of the largest producers of natural gas in the Union. Well, at least we used too.. Not since Polis was elected.

    Yes, we were the first to legalize recreational marijuana in the US, which many Coloradans (native population) VASTLY regret today as homelessness and crime has soared since 2014. Yes, We have tent cities now thanks to all the liberals wanting to get their legal weed!


    Higher education is not compulsory in Colorado. Only secondary education which all the US is federally mandated. Not sure where you got this nonsense.

    We have ranked so high economically because of our oil and gas and we have tons of big tech, i.e. Ball Aerospace, Martin Marietta, Arrow, Oracle etc. We are also one of the largest military states in the union with the Air Force academy, Buckley Air Force base, Peterson Air Force base, Fort Carson Army base, Schriever Air Force base and those most notable, Norad. This is the reason why this state used to lean red with such a vast military presence.


    I've lived in this state since 82 and my wife is a native. I've surely seen this state as red as Hillary's face in 2016 and even purple on occasion but alas it has shifted entirely blue with everyone from California, Oregon and Washington flooding to Colorado.

    Colorado's voting history → https://www.270towin.com/states/Colorado

    And Colorado has similar voting restriction as the new Georgia voting laws, you do realize this, right. Apparently you've not seen the voting laws in NY or Delaware? Very liberal states with strict voting laws.
     
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    You are looking in the wrong place, for I see it here all the time as well and it is overwhelmingly coming from liberals. They claim they have the moral high ground yet do nothing but name call, they pretend to want to find solutions to the statistically minute number of police brutality incidents yet do nothing but shout for defunding which actually increases the problems not decreases. Libs pretend an officer is in the wrong for simply using force at all, even when justified, and refuse to place themselves in the officers shoes. Libs use anecdotes of police brutality to push false narratives about the police, instead of objective stats which dismantle those claims.

    it’s no longer shocking to see the left stand against the heroes that defend them everyday, all because they get so easily and emotionally distraught over anecdotes that they can no longer see the bigger picture, so they would just rather irrationally call people racist lol.

    Morality is by far on the side of conservatives over liberals. That may not have always been true but it most certainly is now.

    The officers are overwhelmingly the good guys, great job for standing together heroes!
     
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    I have always seen authoritarians as the worse kind of person. Even as a small child, whenever I have seen a parent strictly enforcing their authority over their children, I have seen them as very bad parents, the worse kind. Of course I can go on line and find story after story about how there are those who hate their parents for the authority that had been forced upon their then defenseless children. The sad part, is that studies have shown this is how conservatism is spread from generation to generation. Strict authoritarianism to prevent children from thinking otherwise. It is the liberal children who wise up and break out of that cycle of insanity.

    One sees the same mindset within the conservative community, when it comes to public policy. Bring out the police to break heads. It has been quite telling, over the past year, hearing the opinions of conservatives over the killings of Blacks at the hands of the police. We all know what y’all are, the rot that sits at the center of conservative thought. Y’all have been telling us. The praise of police brutality - nothing could be more in character.
     
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    False, the authoritarians are on the left. They want to attack the character of anyone who thinks even a little different than they. They call people racist instead of getting into the data, they ignore all scientific evidence that disagrees with thier narratives all for the sake of feelings. They shut down conversation by simply calling people nazis and refuse to let anyone engage in what they personally believe is wrong think. It’s actual dogma.

    defending police who justly have to kill isn’t racist yet you think you “know what they are” lol. It would never even cross your mind that you may just be acting and thinking with prejudices so you form incorrect opinions about conservatives. It’s ironic that everything you think you dislike conservatives for, is far more prevalent among liberals.
     
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    Oh, BFD you have been in Colorado since 1982. My mom, her parents, and their parents were all born in Colorado, as were my children. As was the mother of my children, her mother and her parents. I too would have been born in Colorado had my dad not been in the Air Force and stationed elsewhere. The only college I ever seriously considered attending was the University of Colorado, in Boulder. The state of Colorado obliged me by providing me with a scholarship to do so.

    When the state of Colorado was first created, it was decided that the state would support three industries, mining and gas, agriculture, and technology and manufacturing. To this end there are three constitutionally mandated state institutions of higher education, each dedicated to its sector. The Colorado School of Mines for mining and gas, Colorado State University for agriculture, and the University of Colorado for technology and manufacturing. Tourism has since been added to the list.

    In case you didn’t know, the high tech industry is dominated by liberal leaning individuals. Look at the maps. I made my money in Boulder, bouncing around the R&D labs of mostly Boulder based high tech companies. Not exactly a hot bed of conservative culture or thought. I have even done work for Ball and Martin. I know things… Arrow is an electronics supply company. I used to order parts from them all the time. They tended to be generous with free samples. Thus, I was able to build personal projects out of expensive parts given to me as free samples.
     

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