Portugal does not have a drug problem because...

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  1. Gorgeous George

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    Drug warriors hate to talk about that.
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The topic is fine, the lack of replies on this months-old thread will be more down to the fact that the OP offered zero basis for discussion and make two statements which are directly contradicted by his own link (the truth being decriminalisation reducing the problems rather than fantasy of legalisation eliminating them). If you really wanted to discuss the topic, you'd be much better off creating a better opening thread yourself. :cool:
     
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    the truth is, there's waaaay too much money being made by many entities & businesses & gov agencies, for it to be made legal...
     
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    I disagree. I really don't understand how you figure your opinion.

    The fact is that Portugal does not have a drug problem as the USA does.
     
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    From the linked article:

    Reported lifetime use of "all illicit drugs" increased from 7.8% to 12%, lifetime use of cannabis increased from 7.6% to 11.7%, cocaine use more than doubled, from 0.9% to 1.9%, ecstasy nearly doubled from 0.7% to 1.3%, and heroin increased from 0.7% to 1.1%[19] It has been proposed[by whom?] that this effect may have been related to the candor of interviewees, who may have been inclined to answer more truthfully due to a reduction in the stigma associated with drug use.[20] However, during the same period, the use of heroin and cannabis also increased in Spain and Italy, where drugs for personal use was decriminalised many years earlier than in Portugal [20][21] while the use of Cannabis and heroin decreased in the rest of Western Europe.[22][23] The increase in drug use observed among adults in Portugal was not greater than that seen in nearby countries that did not change their drug laws.[24]

    The article also said drug-related deaths have decreased, so it's a mixed bag of results.
     
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    You said Portugal has no problems as a result of the use of drugs - that is not true, they have fewer problems (and maybe some new ones). You said Portugal has legalised drugs - that is not true, they decriminalised them. That isn't opinion, that is simple fact. Everything you posted in your OP was false other than the Wikipedia link which proved they were false. There's absolutely no point having any kind of discussion about an issue like this if you can't get the very basic facts correct.
     
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    I agree. there is no point in having a discussion with you. Picky, picky picky. Playing semantic games is not how I roll.
     
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    If you like, but maybe you should consider whether that attitude is why it took five months for anyone to respond to your thread or why it still hasn't inspired any actual discussion about drug policy? :cool:
     
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    I thought you were not going to reply to me because you're smarter than me. Golly, gee whizz.
     

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