Possible UK Blackouts theis Winter

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/blackouts-energy-cap-russia-winter-175303958.html
‘Government preparing for ‘organised blackouts’ this winter in energy shortage ‘worst case scenario’

“European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen has urged member nations to reduce natural gas consumption by at least 15% until spring in order to deal with reduced Russian supplies.
She said: “Russia is blackmailing us. Russia is using energy as a weapon.
“And therefore in any event, whether a partial major cutoff of Russian gas or a total cutoff of Russian gas, Europe needs to be ready.”

No you stupid woman, just like our government you sanctioned a major energy supplier and now you’re whining about an energy crisis! Greta and her windmills will save us.

 

The EU Commission has NO, I repeat NO powers to sanction, direct, advise or recommend to ANY member nation where it chooses to get its own energy supplies or how to organise them.

If you are going to criticise the EU at least know what it's powers are, how it interacts with the members and what it can and cannot do.

Her statement was a SUGGESTION. And à swipe at Russia when Russia is waging war on the border of some member nations.

 

What have possible UK blackouts to do with the EU?

 

They're both fictitious and unnecessary.

 

Europe will also be having them.

 

Why?
The source of électricité in the UK is not the same as any orher country. The UK's sources include both renewables and what they get from France's EDF (Electricity de France) which is generated from nuclear sources.
Each country in Europe gets its electrical power from different sources and combinations. One situation has nothing to say about another.

 

exactly...its a fiction created to further a narrative

 

Our EPA now calls wood burning stoves 'carbon neutral.' Prepare for the air to be filled with smoke and the forests to all be cut down by desperate shivering people ...to protect the environment and prevent global warming.

 

I was at Airbus a few years back and their director of marketing tried to convince me that the A380 was environmentally friendly.....which was unfortunate as I snorted red wine over not only my shirt but his trying not to laugh....he wasn't impressed

 

Daft.
Europe farms trees. One cut down, one planted.
Europe has burned wood for thousands of years and today burns wood pellets , off cuts pressed into energy rich sources of home heating.

 

I got no issue, personally, with burning wood for heat. But Europe also clearcuts forests to bury the wood in a bog, for 'carbon storage.' So either trees are carbon neutral, or they aint. Europe wants it both ways... seems more whimsical than scientific, to me, like **** is just being made up on the fly.

 

I have no idea what you are referring to.
It sounds like you are confusing médiéval customs of throwing hanged criminals into bogs with modern forestry practise.
There is no need to préservé wood. Because it has been farmed and managed for decades, there are always trees at every stage of development.

 

You dont need to tell me that. Its these folks who apparently need convincing:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...gs-for-climate-change.593706/#post-1073037869

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/science-environment-56450965

"A massive tree felling operation has been going on in the vast Kielder Forest of Northumberland for the last few weeks.

Thousands of trees have been cut down as part of a project that claims to be improving the environment and tackling climate change.

The BBC's chief environment correspondent Justin Rowlatt reports on work to restore an ancient ecosystem which can store far more carbon than trees can."

Video in link. Spoiler alert: its a bog being filled full of freshly cut trees so their carbon cant be relased into the atmosphere.

So, can we agree, at least, that cutting down forests to make bogs to store carbon while also promoting the burning of wood for heat as 'carbon neutral' sends mixed messages?

 

If the project achieved better carbon storage and that is the purpose, why not?
At least the trees are peeserved and not burned or made into furniture or god forbid, even pallets..

 

Why is burying them a better use than using them and replanting (or just leaving them alone to keep making oxygen)?

 

If you leave them in the open air, they decay.

 

They also decay if you burn them, just a lot faster, but you already established that isnt an issue:
"Europe farms trees. One cut down, one planted."
Are you changing your mind now? Is burning wood for fuel is bad?

 

Depends on why you are burning it and the kind of wood you are talking about.

 

For heat.

 

There will be people in the UK that wouldn't have any power any way if something isn't done about the cost of living crisis in the UK

 

we could ask Putin to take his troops home and stop annoying Ukraine - that would help.
Not likely though....

 

The UK could line up all those Greenham Common women and deny them any supplementary benefits.
They cost the UK thirty years of energy independence. Culminating in this.

 

It just occurred to me...EDF supplies electricity to British billpayers.
Soon these billpayer will be paying à lot for its electricity, to EDF. EDF is à state owned company.
France has capped price rises in France to 4% with the rest of the costs paid for by the state.
So it seems the British EDF Bill payer will be paying for the costs of electricity to the French population over the 4% rise we pay.
However the UK is lucky...electricity costs far less in France because it is generated by nuclear and costs don't change much.

But the UK links gas and electricity prices. So while EDF prices dont go up much, they will because of the gas prices.
So EDF will indeed make a good profit which will benefit the French state.

Take à bow UK. Thank you indeed. I'll take 4%.

 

Where do you think coal comes from?

Answer: wood and other vegetals that somehow got engulfed under layers of earth millions of years ago.

So, actually, burning wood is exactly like burning coal in terms of carbon emission.

The reason why the "greens" now accept burning wood is mostly a political move, partly justified by the fact that young trees are normally planted to replace wood that is being cut and burned, making wood a "renewable" source of energy.

However, the "renewable" character is highly depending on actual planting of new trees in replacement of the ones being cut.

 

Imported from the USA.

Europe has the capacity to revert to coal. Although this can't be set back up over night.
The problem for Europe is not that it can't adjust to alternative energy sources, it is that it can't adjust to them quick enough to meet their current shortfalls.