Pregnant mom chooses life, survives terminal cancer diagnosis Was told by some doctors to have an abortion because of her medical condition
Religious pro-life activist becomes pregnant but is subsequently diagnosed with cancer. Her doctors suggest abortion but she chooses not to (described without a hint of irony). Doctors and other medical professionals work hard to save both her and her child and, thankfully, are successful. She then attributes the entire thing to God and Mary, presenting the suffering of getting cancer while pregnant as a good thing but also presenting God as entirely responsible for saving her and her child. I'm not sure what we're meant to take from it, but her conclusions seemed to boil down to; keep getting second opinions until someone tells you what you want to hear, doctors are bad unless everyone gets everything exactly right and to worship the God who gave her cancer.
That's a bit of a misconception people have. The vast majority of the time when a woman dies in childbirth there was no prior indication that the woman might have needed an abortion. In other words, even if all women aborted whenever there were indicators that an abortion could likely be needed due to problematic health issues, it would still not prevent the large majority of childbirth deaths. They are difficult to predict. Studies have shown that women who choose abortion are four times more likely to die than women who continue with their pregnancies. This is mainly believed to be associated with suicide risk from emotional problems, perhaps stemming from the aftermath of the abortion. http://afterabortion.org/2000/abortion-four-times-deadlier-than-childbirth/
Well, my point really was that we give god credit for good things, but none of the blame for bad things.
Well this is a patently false statement you have made. 100% of all women who do not have abortions, die.
If that is all you got from the video I can't help but pity your response.....very seldom does God come to you without YOU asking for help. She obviously did in a very special way.
Not really... She received eight to 10 opinions before moving forward with treatment. A couple of doctors told her to terminate the pregnancy and she explained that “it was not necessary at all. My prognosis didn’t change. My treatment plan did not change — pregnant or not pregnant.” https://ewtn.co.uk/article-pregnant...an-with-terminal-cancer-survives-chooses-life
Couldn't that be because in many of the cases where abortion is indicated as necessary, the woman can get an abortion? Increasing restrictions on abortion could well mean a lot of those women being forced to proceed with their pregnancy regardless of the risks, with some of them suffering significant health issues or even death as a consequence (not to mention the potential health impacts or death of the child anyway). This is particularly a risk with the specific laws setting out very specific and limited circumstances for permitting abortion, based around definitive and immediate risk of maternal death only.
If you listen to the video, the woman was not diagnosed with terminal cancer. She stated ‘probable’ terminal cancer based on the state of her lymph nodes. She also claimed a diagnosis of terminal cancer was impossible due to you can’t do scans while pregnant. This is not true, you can certainly do MRI’s to see if the cancer has metastasized. She was not subsequently diagnosed with cancer. She says in the video that she was misdiagnosed in that she was told she had cancer but it was benign. She then got pregnant two weeks later and decided to get multiple second opinions where it was discovered she had tumour cells in her breast and lymph nodes. A few doctors suggested that she might want to have an abortion. Nobody worked hard to save both her and the child. She simply was administered chemotherapy during the second and third trimesters and all was well. Again she was not diagnosed with terminal cancer at the time. Most doctors who know anything realize that an abortion is not needed in this case as it wasn’t an emergency, cancer does not affect the fetus, and chemotherapy can be given. My take away — she is exaggerating to promote her pro-life religious views. She never was in danger. I don’t even believe any doctor suggested abortion because it’s not something an oncologist would suggest in her case. She was clearly not diagnosed as terminal. There was no miracle.
The first 20 seconds reports that, "Doctors treating her later discovered the tumour to be terminal".
Though we seem to have reached the same general conclusion, I respectfully suggest you're mistaken on a couple of key points. First, a benign tumour isn't cancer by definition so it is correct to say she wasn't actually diagnosed with cancer under after she was pregnant. The second opinions weren't about the cancer diagnosis (that was apparently resolved by the first doctor she visited to confirm her pregnancy), it was about the abortion recommendation. She said a couple of doctors suggested and/or recommended it and she sought multiple other opinions (though she doesn't say who or what they all said, hence my point on "keep asking until you get the answer you want"). Saying nobody worked hard is grossly unfair. Treating cancer is relatively routine but but isn't easy at the best of times, even more so with pregnancy in the mix. A large multi-disciplinary team would have been involved diagnosing, testing, tracking and treating her while considering the wellbeing of both her and the foetus. It's their job of course and nothing less should be expected but that doesn't mean they didn't work hard. Also, the reason I made a specific point of this was that the video ignored all of that, only mentioning doctors negatively, in the context of the initial misdiagnosis and (from her point of view) the abortion suggestion itself. This is because the whole point was to attribute all of the positives to God, which is a major issue with this kind of story. I agree that she probably wasn't told the cancer was terminal (which would mean it would be untreatable and doesn't match how she actually described it). Chemotherapy can't indeed be given without significant risk to a foetus later term (though it still needs special consideration) but that isn't true of all cancer treatments. At the point of diagnosis, it isn't clear what kind of treatment might be necessary and there are cancer treatments that would be much more risky with a pregnant patient, to mother or child. That is precisely why abortion might be suggested in these kind of circumstances. But, of course, it was suggested to give her the choice.
"Very seldom", any more seldom than he comes to you with you asking for help? Sounds like a testable prediction.
I heard there was a woman who had a disease called pregnancy, and was miraculously cured of it when a small child popped out of her! That proves God right?
The woman received non-supernatural medical treatment from doctors, lived, and then claims a supernatural miracle. lol When are we going to get a documentable case supported by empirical evidence of a supernatural restoration of an amputated limb?
