Prepping for More Lockdowns? If You're in Florida or Texas, There's No Need

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  1. Spim

    Spim Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Review the market carefully before committing to a price, you might be pleased
     
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    Yeah. I wasn't a fan. I voted third party, or didn't vote at all. Don't remember, honestly. I so rarely vote D/R. My vote is basically just, "none of the above," which I wish was a valid option, that caused a new set of candidates, if it won.
     
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    I did that in 2016, but decided that I didnt want to be a fence sitter this year.

    Most of my ballot was nonpartisan candidates, but I did maybe 7 gop and 3 dem votes, I actually enjoy researching the local candidates but am guilty of being a single issue voter that has to do with a local lock we've been trying to remove for 10 years that is a huge hindrance to boaters in my particular zip code.
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah.

    WRT the amendments, we both voted against additional authority, more freedoms, and less taxes. :)

    I voted one D intentionally. Biden.

    All others were either 3rd party, or, if not available, anti incumbent.

    The exception being our town representation. With that; we always research. We attend meetings, etc. We are involved locally, more than anything.
     
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    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    Yes Andrew Gillum, an incompetent, corrupt, crackhead, who still only lost by 0.4% - not a typo, he lost by 4/10ths of one percentage point. I think its fair to say hatred of Republican candidates motivates Democrats more than admiration of their own and if that's the case then Gov DeathSantis has no chance of seeing a second term. Because not only will the collective hate of the left be focused upon him, but hes also drawing the disdain of Independents and first-time voters who (just as with Pres Trump) will cast their mark for a Democrat just to see him removed. Plus DeathSantis was heavily propped up by Pres Trump to secure his first term and it remains to be seen who the White House will be stumping for come 2022. If a Pres Biden comes down and taps someone like Nikki Fried to run for Gov then I'm thinking ol' Ron is gone.

    Its truly incredible watching just how much Republicans have lost and are risking to lose over their incompetent COVID stance. Forget the ideological battles, forget the moral consequences, from just a basic game-theory perspective alone its a freakin dumbass strategy.

    Seriously though check into Nikki Fried, shes the current FL Agricultural Commissioner. Smart, young, diligent about COVID, well liked by a lot of Florida's big business, and shes pro-marijuana so if she runs and comes out on a 'legalize it' position (which I'm personally against) /pfff forget it, game over, she'll win in a landslide.
     
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    ~ That was always my hope. If "we the people" were actually in charge it would be.
     
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    I disagree with desantis part, he has grown on me, I didn't like him in the primaries he has that kind of goofy mannerism and a nasal voice, but I can't argue with his decisions.

    Nikki? Nah, she already burned some bridges and barely won vs Caldwell, who I didnt really like either. Yes, florida is slowly going deeper blue in the cities, rural red is growing slower. But the dems will fight hard and its certainly winnable. Weed might do it.

    It will be interesting either way because honestly I like living in a state that's damn near split down the middle, it means were not weird!
     
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    ~ Not quite. Florida is at 18 thousand. New York remains the record holder at 33 thousand.
     
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    Your post is replete with appeals to emotions and manipulated data based upon an abused and essentially useless (except for fear mongering purposes) PCR tests.
     
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    Why do people need the government to tell them what to do? If you are at risk, you should already know to stay home.

    In California, Newsom figured out that the virus is a night owl and attacks between 10pm and 5 am so he imposed a curfew! Brilliant, right? Also, they needed to discuss how to impose travel restrictions on us, so they went to hawaii! He had a great time at the restaurant showing us how to avoid a virus.

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    Florida is purple, but we went for Trump, and our Republican governor is doing a good job of handling COVID without making it a partisan sh*t show, so I'm proud of my state overall.

    It's also worth noting that the overwhelming majority of the cases in Florida were in Miami Dade, which is one of the bluest parts of the state. So Trump haters need to just stop already with the partisan finger pointing and politicization of COVID.


    Me too. Parts of the country may have gone crazy, but in Florida we chose Trump and we're handling COVID in a moderate reasonable manner. If only the rest of the country had their sh*t together like Florida does!


    This, in my opinion, is as it should be. Let businesses decide what they are comfortable with, and let customers do likewise.
     
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    AOC actually expressed and idea the other day about paying at risk people to do exactly that. The basic workings of the plan would be that they'd receive a substantive income and of course we'd have to expand on to include further benefits because what we're essentially talking about is the creation of a special protected class. You want to fund this with your tax dollars? Well, ok, I'm at risk I'll sign up. I need $7500 a month and -fair warning- as a newly classified protected person I'll probably be taking full advantage of every opportunity to grab more and more wherever and however I can.

    I can see it now, we get our own dedicated shopping days because corporations will love to pander to us for woke points, we'll get priority use of healthcare because its already been established that we're at risk, of course we'll have to have deep discounts on telecom services since its our only link to the outside world so goodbye $250/mo cell phone and $230/mo tv-internet bill but don't worry the providers can just pass the costs on to other customers, and I cant put my finger on exactly what other 'free ****' we'll be needing but don't worry I know your money is effectively our money.

    Now that bit of sarcasm aside the concerning thing is that due in no small part to exact attitude of telling people to just "stay home" because wearing a mask and standing a few feet apart during checking is such a damned Constitutionally critical intrusion on 'muh rights' - the Senate is likely going to the under Democrat control just as the Presidency will be, the House still is, and the Courts soon shall be. What I'm meaning is, as absurd as those benefits I just typed out were... we'll probably end up getting something pretty darn close to it and you'll have pay for it. I've been trying to tell Republicans all along just how much they stood to lose by taking these belligerent stances against COVID mitigation and, heh well, as Sen Schumer put it "nothing's off the table".
     
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    Appeals to emotion? Darn right. I'd love for more people to tap into their capacity for compassion and lean on the lessons of faith because we could be, and should be, saving more lives with these extremely simple mitigation techniques. But as far as "manipulated data" goes, going to have to ask you to kindly peddle that elsewhere because the only place that tune still carries is in far-right blogs and extremist subreddits.
     
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    Ah ha, but I did say negligence-caused casualties which would amount to Gov Cuomo's nursing home fiasco and of course NYC's riot party's, but those don't count for all of New York's deaths. Whereas in the case of Florida the negligence of Gov DeathSantis began almost immediately with delayed initial shutdowns, rushed re-openings, and a belligerent refusal to enact a second shutdown. I cant give you an exact count here but its pretty clear Florida has had a lot more avoidable deaths than New York due to one guy trying and occasionally screwing up vs. one guy who just refuses to even try.
     
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    This sound familiar.
    Didn't I hear it earlier in the year?
     
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    Remember this : People are moving into Florida - people are leaving New York .
     
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    "Prepping for More Lockdowns? If You're in Florida or Texas, There's No Need"

    is Trump issuing lockdown guidelines again?
     
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    How do you do, apexofpurple?

    Would you mind unpacking that statement? What, for example, do you think it means to be a Marxist?

    Thank you, sir or madam.

    Mod edit/ Rule 15
     
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    Or, perhaps more to the point, apexofpurple, what is it that you think Marxism is?

    Thank you again.
     
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    I appreciate your candor regarding your appeals to emotion. Many do not.
     
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    People make their own decisions regardless of state policies. Some decide to stay home, some decide to throw caution to the wind, some falsely believe they can throw caution to the win perfectly safely as long as they are wearing a mask. It is all a game of Russian Roulette at this point.
     
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    Exactly, but Blue state Yankees will flock to Florida again this winter.
     
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    I'll second that for Texas. It was comforting to hear that Gov. Abbott is not going to lock down businesses again. People are asked to volunteer to follow recommendations without shutting off the economy. For the most part, I see people social distancing and there is a mask mandate here. I think the mask mandate should be up to business owners, but the mask issue is a small concession to have businesses open. People who are treated like adults who can make their own decisions are going to happier, less stressed out people. Less stress is good for healthy natural immune systems.
     
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    So you have masks, but the bars are still open at full capacity?
     
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    50% capacity I think, maybe 75%. Most of the bars "converted" their registration to become classified as restaurants.

    I enjoyed happy hour yesterday. ;)
     
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