President Obama and all of the Progressive Democrats are Communist

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  1. Zavy

    Zavy New Member

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    It's my opinion the term Progressive Democrat is a polite way of saying Communist Democrat. I feel rather strongly about this because I was drafted during the Vietnam War era to fight the spread of Communism that was being fought there and in Western Europe with the Cold War.

    How did I come to this conclusion? I read the Communist Manifesto and reviewed the Communist Party USA's website to see if my concern had basis in fact.

    Communist Manifesto
    http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

    Communist Party USA's website
    http://www.cpusa.org/

    HAGEL ENDORSED BY COMMUNIST PARTY USA
    http://www.wnd.com/2013/02/hagel-endorsed-by-communist-party-usa/

    Communists Cheer On Obama’s Gun Grab
    http://www.infowars.com/communists-cheer-on-obamas-gun-grab/

    Communist Party USA Celebrates Obama’s Victory: “We Won!”
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/11/communist-party-usa-celebrates-obamas-victory-we-won/

    Please invest a few minutes and see if you don't agree.
     
  2. Redalgo

    Redalgo New Member

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    Real communists support abolition of the government, socioeconomic classes, and private property. President Obama embraces private property, markets, centre-right economic policies, collaborates with major corporations to aid the economic recovery, was challenged by multiple parties well to his left in the last Presidential election - none of which were communist, incidentally - and to my knowledge has never in office proposed any radical changes to the way U.S. firms are structured. For its part, the CPUSA was a tool of the USSR and has such dismal odds of electing anybody to any elected post that endorsing a major party candidate makes them no less irrelevant than they otherwise are today.
     
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    NothingSacred Active Member

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    Personally, I see Obama as a right of center, moderate, corporate tool.
     
  4. Zavy

    Zavy New Member

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    Spreading the wealth seems to fit your definition of real communists and the progressives have been doing their best to destroy private property ownership by causing the housing bubble with insistence unqualified buyers be given home mortgages. Through legislation the progressives have installed authority in government agencies without legislation nor government oversight, among these are the Labor Relations Board, EPA and implementation of Dodd -Frank legislation where thousands of new rules continue to written monthly. The Obamacare legislation is also a tool to control free enterprise from the medical field to each and every employer in the US. You indicate Obama applies a center-right economic policies while I see nothing in his agenda to be anywhere near center let alone center right...that's laughable.

    I've read numerous stories about the Obama administration preparing for Martial Law from arming Homeland Security to culling military officers that will not agree to confront American citizens if ordered to do so.

    Obama's physical policy along with assistance from the federal reserve could cause bankruptcy, loss of preferred currency standard of the world for trade...his foreign policy has China testing the waters to take over Naval control of Pacific trade...Russia has a chip on it's shoulder and there's new talk of a new Cold War with Russia. The Arab Spring is a springboard to the destruction of Israel, god the list is long.

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    Based on what?
     
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    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    Apparently, Allen West has an account here now.
     
  6. Zavy

    Zavy New Member

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    Did you find any disagreement on the Communists Party USA's website that doesn't match Obama's agenda?
    Anything?
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Oh, so Obama and the Progressive Democrats support the notion of a stateless society where the means of production are owned by the proletariat?

    So Obama and the Progressive Democrats support the notion of destroying the bourgeoisie?

    Oh, wait?

    What was that?

    No?

    You don't know anything about communism, do you?
     
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    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pity Senator McCarthy prevented Americans from knowing anything about politics. To the free world they sound almost incredibly silly when they start on this stuff,
     
  9. Zavy

    Zavy New Member

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    The progressive Democrats agenda reads like the lyrics of the song Imagine.

    Empowering the middle class, why yes National Labor Relations Board, card check...unionization of the entire workforce is the goal...actually the major unions of the world would prefer to control all labor in the world and Obama would love to help.

    Destroy the rich guy, well yes! Redistribution of wealth.
     
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    can you define communism, and provide specific policy examples matching the definition of communism which supports your assertion obama is one?
     
  11. Zavy

    Zavy New Member

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    Did you find any disagreement on the Communists Party USA's website that doesn't match Obama's agenda?
    Anything?
     
  12. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Think the other way round, for goodness sake! What basis of support has the CPUS nowadays, and how could it possibly influence capitalist politicians?
     
  13. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    no they're not...
     
  14. Sickofleft

    Sickofleft New Member Past Donor

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    Nahhhh...what they are giving us is however Fascism with a smile.

    The Democratic Party is modern Fascism, what they do and what they are doing comes straight from Mussolini doctrine:

    "The Fascist State lays claim to rule in the economic field no less than in others; it makes its action felt throughout the length and breadth of the country by means of its corporate, social, and educational institutions, and all the political, economic, and spiritual forces of the nation, organised in their respective associations, circulate within the State."

    "The Fascist conception of the State is all-embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value. Thus understood, Fascism is totalitarian, and the Fascist State—a synthesis and a unit inclusive of all values—interprets, develops, and potentiates the whole life of a people."

    Obamacare anyone? Want a gun....mmmm well lets look at what medications you have been taken shall we? Chik-fil-A...how dare you hold an opinion of something...anything that disagrees with us......it goes on and on and on......

    BUT....think like we do, do what we say.....you will be just fine.
     
  15. Kwigybo

    Kwigybo New Member

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    What this guy said.

    If Obama is a Communist then so are just about every democratic state in the world.

    He's a state-capitalist. You'd have to be blind to think otherwise.
     
  16. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    I really don't care.

    The Democratic party is made up of statists.

    Communsim/Marxism/Syndicate Anarchism are all anti-statist.

    You are essentially saying that statists will abolish the state through more statism.

    Read up on communism before making any further arguments.
     
  17. Kwigybo

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    The fact that an American citizen can sit here and suggest they live under a totalitarian/fascist regime, when in fact they live in arguably the freest nation on the planet, is truly disturbing. And it's bordering on obscene, quite frankly. Go to Saudi Arabia if you want to know what Fascism is. Don't sit here and tell me that since Obama's election the once great freedoms you had under Bush have disappeared. What a shameful thing to suggest.

    Now over here in Australia, we're not allowed to walk around with AR-15's and we have bulk billed health care. It's like......well.......it's like. Oh man I don't even know how to describe it. I don't need a time machine to visit late Weimar Germany. The Fascists are already here.....lol.
     
  18. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    one does call the soviet kind communism, and that's pretty statist alright.
     
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    Sickofleft New Member Past Donor

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    It is the road were on and is (like or not) what you're asking for. Don't come crying me.
     
  20. Kwigybo

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    Yeah okay, matey. Be sure to wake me when the Yankee Gestapo decide to pop over for dinner.

    I'd say the Tea Party is closer to Hitler and Mussolini than the donkeys are but the comparisons are nonetheless intellectually lazy.
     
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    They also call it socialism. And in reality it's neither.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    So soviet communism is communism in the sense that it abolishes the state in a totalitarian dictatorship?

    How does that work?
     
  23. NothingSacred

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    Obamacare alone proves he's right of center, it's a Republican Plan...I'm a SOCIALIST, I want single payer govt. run healthcare, if Obama was a communist, he'd want that too. What Obamcare is, is a givaway to the insurance and drug companies, it favors them over the "proletariat"... I want EVERYTHING to favor the "proletariat" over any corporation or Wall Street.
     
  24. Zavy

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    Progressives are to Democrats equal to Tea Party to the Republican Party in difference to the standard over time.

    Progressives are communist...Traditional Democrats liberal politicians supporting a democratic social state.

    Tea Party are physical conservatives supporting small central government with no stated desire for size or complexity of local government with little emphasis on capitalism other than traditional free market capitalism. Traditional Republicans support free market capitalism and foreign policy which supports the same.

    Traditional Democrats and Republicans love to compromise and give each other pieces of the pie while disregarding the debt incurred to extend their personal political future.
     
  25. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    Well, for starters, if the Communist Party supports more gun control, they're moving against a key part of what allows a stateless society to form. In order to overthrow a government, you need an armed populace to do it.

    Very rarely is a bloodless revolution achieved.

    Much like the GOP, there's a big difference between the rhetoric of the Democratic Party and its actions in policy.
     

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