President's reaction to the Orlando Shooting

I can agree with that, but most cases of someone acting as a bigot does not end in mass murder of people. That's what makes terrorism so much more dangerous.

 

Out of all history you bite out an accident centuries in the past and want to divert the discussion to the discussion of the accident.

I was talking about a broad look in total.

You keep finding an accident, which is not necessarily true, and which is an exclusion from a rule and you are trying to make a rule out of an exclusion.

Atheistic countries: the USSR and the Eastern Block, China, N. Korea. Atheism as the state religion. All has been happening in your/your parents life time. You do not want to see how LBGT has been treated in atheistic countries. You need definitions. Then you will try to split hair over definitions diverting from the fact of treatment of LGBT in China and other places influenced by atheism.

The point is not that ISIS is celebrating. The point is that when ISIS is celebrating murder of 50 innocent people LBGT is fighting Xns and is trying to find an accident when a Xn here and a Xn there don’t follow the Bible. LGBT reacts to ISIS terrorism by trying to represent Xnty to be no different than ISIS.
You call it a good history of LGBT relation to America.

Since reality does not exist for LGBT I don’t know why people even bother to talk to LGBT or take any actions upon demands from LGBT, as neither LGBT nor its demands exist for LGBT in reality anyway. I think I will now quote your words whenever there is a discussion regarding LGBT.

 

I mean that homeland security failed because there isn't anyway they could have prevent him from doing this without due process. They knew he was associating with terrorists. One of his friends was a suicide bomber in Syria I think. They questioned this guy about it, suspected this guy was not on the level, but couldn't do anything to stop it, because freedom.

 

OMG. Ok, how about telling us about who can't get across the border. Kids by the tens of thousands are crossing it as well as criminals and drug smugglers.

 

Hello..............Anybody home?

ISIS claims responsibility for Orlando nightclub shooting


http://www.aol.com/article/2016/06/...cre-at-florida-gay-nightclub-police/21393720/

 

I'm not one for conspiracy but I'll just say that I think we are too busy blaming each other for isis rather then dealing with it.

 

Why did they claim that after it was public knowledge he swore allegiance to ISIS?

 

Are you really aren't interested in ending bigotry?
But no, I'd view it as a hate crime, I viewed Dylan Roof killing in a church a hate crime. Are you wrong every time you try to make a claim?

 

JOAN OF ARC?? Hey, kid! Try to stay focused, would ya? LOLOL.

 

Only tens of thousands? How many more are trying to get across the border in the first place?

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Is that so then? I mean this sounds like something even authoritative countries would have problems with as well?

 

How'd you score on the "troll" scale?

Thread is either 1. a hallmark example of slimy leftist evasion tactics and purposeful obtuseness, 2. a poor trolling effort from someone seeking attention. Neither is good.

You had no desire whatsoever to conduct any meaningful discussion when posting this thread and your replies to it evidence this quite clearly.

 

North Korea doesn't seem to have an issue.

 

I agree, Islam is a few hundred years behind christianity. How do we change Islamic views? I say one way is to not give them so much of our money for their oil. That is what is funding them for the most part.
But that is going way OT.
I think it took the likes of forming the USA to end christianity's bigotry. We aren't there yet, but our laws have curbed the killing. Europe followed suit and sometimes leads.
But don't ever bring up that gays, blacks, or any other untolerated group were killed in the name of the bible. Because it hasn't happened in the last 20 yrs or so.

 

I take this as meaning you can't spin Joan of Arc.

She was burned to death after a trial. How is that an accident?

Yeah but is that because of Atheism or Authoritarianism? How did you make that distinction between the two?

Then why should we say these rogue Muslims represent Muslims as a whole? What's the difference between the two?

Sure, but be aware that I use a lot of existentialist logic. Just an FYI.

 

Good post - hope it helps Krane. Forgot about the killer calling 911.... heard on news a short while ago that 9 of the injured died......

 

Mass murder is the worst, no doubt. But denying one the same rights as the next is pretty bad. Or those that get beaten up. Or mentally abused by family many times or society and end up committing suicide. I might put that worse than mass murder, tough call on that.

 

Touche.

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Irony.

I would say it was more of an error in making a thread up.

Then take it up with the mods.

 

Me either, but IMO, if a few countries got together we could end them. But there is more to this than meets the eye. I bet oil has a big role, or natural gas. And perhaps Russian influence.
The ME is certainly a quagmire of world issues.

 

It has to come from within. Apparently the US thinks screwing with them in submission will do the trick. Personally I think it would probably stop organically, eventually. ISIS needs to go though so were stuck with the fighting for a while, which will probably lead to a power vacuum and more fighting. I don't know why the people don't rise up. I find hard to think people watching a guy get burned in a cage are thinking anything other then; these dudes are villains. I don't know why the people stand for it, maybe not everyone has that American (*)(*)(*)(*) this (*)(*)(*)(*) attitude, I don't know.

 

Or not enough have had it, because the result of saying (*)(*)(*)(*) this, and not having the backing of mighty military is a sure death sentence.

 

The meaning is that you will not divert the whole history to an accident in the history and you will not make an exclusion from the rule to be the rule.
You can try the 5th time but it will not fly.

The pivoting point of marxism leninsm is hatred to God. It is militant atheism, which is Authoritarian.
As I predicted you are trying to split hair over definition and ignore treatment of LGBT in China for the sake of fighting Xns in America.

The point is that when ISIS is celebrating murder of 50 innocent people LBGT is fighting Xns and is trying to find an accident when a Xn here and a Xn there don’t follow the Bible. LGBT reacts to ISIS terrorism by trying to represent Xnty to be no different than ISIS.You call it a good history of LGBT relation to America. This point but no claim that ISIS represents or does not represent Muslims as a whole was made for you to address.
As you have no objection my point stands as true.

It does not matter what logic makes LGBT think that they do not exist in reality.

 

These security experts don't seem to know that lots of "independent" agents commit acts of terrorism without the knowledge of Al Qaeda or ISIS. It's actually better for them not to know who is our there butchering on their behalf.

 

Does it make you feel better to always be on the defensive side?

 

http://www.pewforum.org/2016/05/12/changing-attitudes-on-gay-marriage/
http://www.familylife.com/articles/...ltural-issues/why-we-oppose-same-sex-marriage

1. Marxism is not Leninism. Leninism is a form of Marxism.
2. "Religion is the opium of the masses" refers to how faith blinds rationality.
3. Yeah logic's good, that's a theocracy.

If we can't stop bigotry here, how can it be stopped abroad?

As for me, someone who has LGBT friends who turned to the church for help coping, I have no problem with Christianity, neither do a lot of LGBT as well. The problem is when the beliefs are forced on us. That's the issue.

Nothing as we know it exists in reality. Reality and our perceptions are two different things.

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Defense always win.

 

Thats a shame. I had to turn the tv off for a while. Over 50 dead all because Obama refuses to even name the enemy much less protect us from them. Did you see the fbi snub the guy that asked how he was able to buy a firearm despite being on a terror watchlist? The guy said it was a dead end. Um. No it wasnt a dead end obviously. Here in mass they want us to write essays to obtain a firearm.....radical muslim terrorist being investigated gets an fid. Seems to me the obama admin really wants terrorist tobhave guns but is doing his best to make sure law abiding citizens cant defend themselves against these terrorists.
Me...write essay for gun....omar terrorist gets firearm no problem. Kills 50 people, obama blames guns and cant even name the enemy.