Press conference by NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg following the meeting of NATO Heads of S

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  1. Woogs

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    by NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg following the meeting of NATO Heads of State and Government, with Sweden

    Aside from the hubbub over Sweden being close to joining NATO (much ado about nothing IMO), NATO Secretary Jen Stoltenberg also addressed the situation regarding Ukraine's possible admission into NATO. Beyond the usual platitudes, he did get to the heart of the matter when he said, in response to a reporter's question, "Then I would like to add that on top of that, of course, Allies are also providing substantial military support, because the most urgent task now is to ensure that Ukraine prevails, because unless Ukraine prevails, there is no membership issue to be discussed at all.".

    So right there he lays it out for all to see. Ukraine must prevail, or no NATO for Ukraine. There is no qualifier such as "Ukraine must prevail, or reach a diplomatic solution" or anything of the kind. So, it's sure, you can be in NATO. All you gotta do is beat Russia!!

    So now the choice for Ukraine is to either defeat Russia or settle the war diplomatically and not be a member of NATO. The choice for Russia is to decisively beat Ukraine or have NATO or its doorstep and lose access to the Black Sea, along with Crimea and 4 other regions of Ukraine it has admitted into Russia proper since the war began. Zelensky has repeatedly said victory would only come when all territories had been reclaimed.

    So, what's next? I've a feeling Russia was waiting to see what would happen at Vilnius. Now it knows.

    https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_217077.htm
     
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    "Aside from hubbub of Sweden joining NATO"?

    It burns Mafiosi a**es that Sweden& Finland are in NATO.....basically Baltic Sea will be a no go....for the orcs, and much harder too navigate.

    700+ miles of New NATO border to contend with.....where's the money going to come from for that?

    Russia isn't "decisively" beating Ukraine.....that chance came and went back in March/April 2022....

    All of Ukraine defense industry is getting fully integrated to NATO standards....as it's military.

    Now Russia knows.....how is it going to keep itself from imploding .....woogs.
     
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    Before Russia invaded...Germany and the EU were happy trading with them and Poland and Sweden were content staying neutral and Ukraine's NATO membership was a no go.

    Now?

    Lol. Putin just have everyone not in NATO an incentive into joining NATO.
     
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    Explain how the Baltic Sea will be a no go for Russia. What?? Are Sweden and Finland going to attack Russia?

    Last I checked, Finland wasn't slaughtering ethnic Russians so why should Russia care? Did Finland suddenly grow bigger balls after being admitted into NATO? Somehow I just don't see the Finns as being the same as the mouth-breathing cretins in Ukraine.

    As for Ukraine's defense industry and military ..... Ukraine has no defense industry at this time. It is a total beggar nation. As for its military, they are kicking old corpses out of their graves to make room for Ukraine's military.
     
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    700 miles more of NATO border to secure Woogs....where's Mafiosi going to get resources....same as maintaining a Baltic fleet swarming with NATO soon.

    All NATO countries have bigger balls Woogs....whydoesnt Mafiosi attack?

    Where were there orcs getting slaughtered....Woogs?

    Ukraine has no defense industry??....what sunk Moskva?....a Neptune ...right?....made by UAF?


    Total beggars?....last I checked Shaheed drones from Iran?....RuZZkis seem to be begging?

    Kicking old corpses?

    Orcs recruiting 60+ yr olds with diabetes and bad lower backs?....sounds kinda desperate?
     
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    Russia is this big ole fat resource -rich country just waiting to be taken. You want some? Come get some!!! JUMP!! when you feel froggy!!!

    Yes ... total complete BEGGARS!! Zelensky, the little Ukrainian dwarf, has does nothing more than go around the world, cap in hand, begging for stuff so more Ukrainians can die. Zelensky has blown through all Ukraine's Soviet equipment, then has blown through all the rest of the world's old Soviet equipment that the US could scrounge up for it, and now it is blowing through the western equipment it's been given. Result? 4 regions lost!! Hey, Zoomy, all that equipment wasn't remote controlled. Men were in those tanks, and men operated all that artillery that went boom!! That's why old corpses are being evicted from their eternal resting place ... to make room for new occupants!!

    As for Finland and Sweden, they both have 24,000 active military each. That's 48,000 total. Scary stuff!

    Don't worry about Russia. It will take care of itself.
     
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    Won't be much of a problem...Woogsie, sanctions and this "war" should splinter off RuZZia good and proper.

    Total BEGGARS?.....like I said Mafiosi getting drones from Iran....what?....can't make their own drones?

    Pillaged Belarus and NK for old ammo.....had Xinping drop by for a chat in March...suryvfor help.

    Chinos probably have Far East for collateral.

    Yup...Zelensky blew through that Soviet junk...to make way for NATO standards....woogs.

    4 regions lost?....How so?....Orcs don't even have 50% positive control....how did referendums go?....99%....yet nothing but insurgency?....why so?....same as in Donetsk?.....and Luhansk...

    RuZZfascista should be thankful that what's left isn't in NATO....:)
     
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    Smart of you to drop the talk about Finland and Sweden being such a threat. 48,000 troops spread across 2 countries is nothing to get all puffed up about.

    Now maybe you could stop mainlining copium and take a dose of reality regarding Ukraine itself. The maps, even those shown used by pro-Ukrainians, tell the tale. Russia already controls most of the best parts of Ukraine and is not going to give it up. It's a certainty that Russia will be taking more territory. There's even talk in the West of reconstituting a modern version of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth so that part of Ukraine can be salvaged.

    It ain't looking good for the Beggar Dwarf.
     
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    "Smart of me dropping Sweden & Finland"....I'll bring it up again....yup, Putler great salesman for NATO....he should earn a top award....

    Basically US missiles just 5 mins from Pete....Murmansk can be threatened, where's Pedo going to get resources to monitor all this....90% of his military is neck deep in $hit in Ukraine....havent thought this through...have you....woogsie.

    Stop snorting the blow woogsie....RuZZia controls really what?....constant missile strikes deep in occupied territory...by Storm Shadows....France just announced deliveries of Scalpel cruise missiles....Germans the Taurus.

    How about those Kinzals....are they still flying?

    Ever since chimpfag Putler jailed it's designers...it's been crickets?

    It's a certainty RuZZfascista taking more territory?....with what Woogsie?...any links for this?.....maybe we'll see T34s yet?

    "Talk in the West of Polish-Lithuanian".....got some link for this BS?

    Right about now RuZZkis best bet is hoping RF can last out the year....:)
     
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    Finland and Sweden have been holding joint exercises with NATO for years. And, again, 48,000 troops between both countries.

    Blah, blah, blah ..... more "game-changers from the West. Meanwhile, corpses getting evicted in Ukraine.

    Here's a link for that BS:

    It’s Time to Bring Back the Polish-Lithuanian Union

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/03/26/its-time-to-bring-back-the-polish-lithuanian-union/
     
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    The Beggar Dwarf at Vilnius.

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    Where's these corpses?

    Great opinion piece by FP.....and thats just what it is.:)
     
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    Another great pic with no supporting link.:)
     
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