I have been on a spiritual quest for many years and feel it is time for me to put some thoughts on things about God, the Universe and what's really out there and what it all means and think I have a coherent thought-belief system that is more a statement than anything else that I feel is important for all prople to listen to, because I believe it is the ultimate truth. Naturally I am putting it here because I welcome debate on it as I need other people's opinions. So is there an intelligent audience out there, or do threads like this that have new ideas die on the vine?
Nope, no sign of intelligent life here. But give it a go anyway! What stunning revelations have you uncovered in your quest for truth?
It depends. Established religion is based upon long standing beliefs and rules. Because of this new ideas can be seen by some as a threat as is questioning the status quo. I personally like the theology of Deism, where we use our God given intelligence to figure things out for ourselves.
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"think I have a coherent thought-belief system that is more a statement than anything else that I feel is important for all prople to listen to, because I believe it is the ultimate truth. " LOVE to hear it.
It's a logical viewpoint of reality and God's role in it... it's logically how reality should work. But since it involves God, it automatically becomes a hot button issue. I want to remove the dogma and talk about God like your Uncle Ben, not some all-powerful yadda yadda whatever because I am fairly sure God does not need our prayers to exist. It also involves a close approximation of my understanding of physics overall, as I am trying to define a real, physical place. It's a unifying theory between science and religion so I guess it falls under philosophy. And I am not teasing you guys, I have been working on it mentally for some time and feel I need to announce I am going to write something for public dissemination just to motivate me to put it down finally.
When you die, you go to a different place separate from this Universe. Your soul takes you there. This place has five dimensions- the fifth being ALLSPACE. Existing in five dimensions, you exist as a probability field the size of that entire place. The fifth dimension resembles a book made of infinite clear plastic pages with each page a soul and each soul can see all the other souls at once because it's ALLSPACE. Looking at the fifth dimension can be done from the sixth dimension- ALLTIME. Existing in six dimensions, you can look through all the pages and see every part of all of them at once as one image. God exists in the seventh dimension, which is His home and He fills every and any part of it at the same time- it could be called ALLGOD. It's where He resides. There the "Book of our Universe" sits on His shelf. There is no dimension higher than His, but there are other microscopic dimensions that are well understood by physics that exist, as for time to exist, things must be in flux and extra dimensions become necessary. God can make changes to the book(s) but generally, God avoids direct interaction. He acts through imparting the miracle at a critical point in Spacetime, then the book retroactively writes this into the script as it does not violate conservation so yes- it can rain goldfish. It is important to understand that God does not put a burden on any soul that is greater than it can bear. The Lot analogy comes to mind, but a better way of looking at it is through the Buddhist belief that suffering comes from desire and in a natural setting- a "Garden of Eden", there is no suffering. So while our soul may be tested by God, it is a test like Abram's test of faith that brings about realizations and convictions and from that, ethics arise. Were they divinely inspired? I believe all of them are- the rest is up to speculation and that's where holy men come in to show a clear path. But we all know paths tend to stray. What church would God go to if He came down tomorrow? The closest thing we have to what a Supreme Being would consider an acceptable moral lifestyle and ethos is in Tibet somewhere which is ironic as many Tibetans don't believe in Supreme Beings. God made the Universe to be compatible for evolution to produce sentient beings. Well actually, He sorta did. He started the ball of wax and the laws of physics set themselves and reality started to exist... He started googolplexes of places like this Universe- he's got an extensive library. You should be mindful of the world around you and do more good in your life than bad. That's pretty much God's only request. Apart from that, you can worship as much or as little as you like but be mindful of God- He is your Creator and you go back to Him when you die.
Interesting concept and not all that far removed from the visions some churches have. I went to the Unity Church a few times (not to be confused with Unitarian)... and, simplistically speaking, they believe existence is a series of 'planes' -- designed to eventually bring us to a Christ-like state where we'll understand it all. Souls on different planes don't run into each other because they're like radio waves... on different frequencies of being. Occasionally, there's a crossover and we call it a paranormal experience. Now they don't really 'preach' that kinda stuff, but books about it are for sale in their book store... and they do 'celebrate' the passing of a person to their next plane in place of a funeral. I thought it was an interesting theory. Yours is interesting too. As long as God gets credit, I'm always willing to listen with an open mind.
But then you infer that Truth is our savior, and the almighty is the Real World we must figure out to be saved. That is the essence of Christianity, is it not??? "I am the Truth, ... the way and the life"...
You go guy... I suggest that the ready audience of Bible readers would appreciate your thoughts which show that the Big Bang verifies In the beginning was true. The Cosmos DID have a beginning. We just found that out in the 20th century. So this God is the Force behind the ever unfolding next frame f the Reality men must adapt to if their species strives for eternal companionship with the Life Force that sires Truth in its wake. Right?
Every religion there is, by definition, has a set of parameters its followers must obey: a conduct code. For Catholics, it's believing in Jesus as God, for Muslims, it's believing in Mohammed's vision of Allah... all religions have that leap you have to take to accept. I feel mine does not sting... you don't have to walk over open coals to believe in what I wrote.
You just misinterpret the Bible by assuming that these people who speak for it or their Koran know what it said. You already stated that Truth is the foundation for the beliefs that you will center a religious behavior around. Jesus said, "I AM the Truth,"... That one word is pretty informative of the essence and sum of Christ-I-anity, as opposed to the churchians today. John1:1 In the beginning was the Word, (i.e.; Truth: [John 14:6]), and the Word, (Truth, itself), was (synonymous) with God, (i.e.; Reality), and the Word, (Truth: [John 14:6]), was (indistinguishable from Reality), God, (the almighty for all men). 2 "He," (Truth, the symbolic Word to come: [Jud 1:3]) was with God, (i.e.; the ever unfolding Reality), in the beginning, (that is, the initial unfolding of material Reality in what was the actual physical Creation). Jn 1:3 ALL (real) THINGS, (phenomenally, i.e.; mentally), came into existence, (for man), through him, (i.e.; this concept of Truth), and apart from him, (this ideal of Truth), not even ONE (real) thing came into (actual) existence (for men).
Science already believes the Big Bang happened at a precice point in the past and at the first moment of the Big Bang it was a unified state of quanta that phase shifted into the four fundamental forces of nature in a 4D plane with 11 dimensions- most of them discrete. (If you're not familiar with that concept, briefly, you look at a garden hose and see it exists in 4 dimensions. But if you're an ant, you can walk all around the inside radius of the hose in another dimension: "inside the hose".) And it is plainly obvious there was a starting point to quanta itself... the pre Big Bang epoch in which quanta was in a superposition or in a phase transition up an order of magnitude.... a superstring. And that had to be at a unified point at one point countless epocs before the Big Bang came along; there clearly is energy in Spacetime itself. That is called God. No information is lost in the fifth dimension and people from all times co-exist there... countless quadrillions of sentient beings from all over Spacetime. Each is a soul and acts like a neuron. Collectively, they make up a conciousness, and at the end of time God will meet this organically-created sentient being that's made of the googolplexes that we all are and it will represent the fruit of His creation that is reality. At that point, God and this being will merge and become "new God" and remake reality. It's elegant.
All religious books are sacred. And all of them require you to swallow a nut to join. For Christianity, it's believing in the Trinity. But the Qu'ran states "how could there be more than one God? God forbid there ever was" to paraphrase. One way for a Catholic to accept what I wrote is this- you stop believing in Christ the Anointed One and start beliving in Jesus the Prophet and healer. Then when you die and meet Jesus the Anointed One you simply apologize to Jesus, saying "Sorry- I worshipped God your Father, not you" and he (or He) will understand... how could he not? Or do you believe that Jesus will send you to hell for worshipping His Father and not him... think about it- it makes no sense.
Agreed... Now convince the Christians and Muslims: Gen. 1:1 In the beginning, (the Formative/Cosmology Era), God, (the Uncaused First Cause, or the Dark Energy which pre-existed the material Universe, perhaps), created... (all that which has followed the Big Bang from the singularity of Planck Time which consisted of Seven Stages: 1) The Inflation Era 2) The Quark Era 3) Hadron Era 4) Lepton Era 5) Nucleosynthesis Era 6) Opaque Era 7) Matter Era,... in an enormous Einsteinian energy transformation, E = mC^2),... ... the (matter composing the) heaven (beyond the Solar System) and the (accretion disk which was yet to congeal into a spherical planet) earth.
But YOU believe in the Trinity between Reality and its image in our mind, Truth, do you NOT??? God is all there is, ie; Reality itself... the whole external existence beyond our mind is the almighty God to which all life must bow: ...Truth inside our head, is the Holy Spirit, the image of God, almighty Reality, and is present inside our mind when our thinking correctly images the TRUTH, or the picture of Reality inside our mind. ////// TRINITY: Our (1) Lord is Truth, in whose (2) Spirit of mind we must commit our lives, in order to face (3) Father Nature, the Almighty Reality, within which we all exist.
Convince them of what? What you posted isn't theology or science. There are more stages to the big bang and no scientist has said that the big bang is the beginning of existence.
With all due respect Tibetans have lots and lots of gods. http://factsanddetails.com/china.php?itemid=220#05 For Buddhists these "gods" generally highlight on aspect or another of Buddhist thought or belief. It is not necessary to "believe" in the gods to be a Buddhist but honoring what the "gods" represent is part of the tradition. my personal favorites are the Dharmapalas. A sort of "Justice League" of Buddhist deities.
Bye the bye.... I was not commenting on your proposition. my interpretation of Buddhism is something like "live a good life. Care for the weak and poor. Treat all people well. Use meditation as a path toward "knowing" truth." I have no idea what follows this life but, as is taught in the Book of the Dead, Knowing the Three Noble Truths, following the Eight Fold path, and meditation in search of enlightenment will prepare one for what comes next. I do congratulate you on your ongoing search.
By saying established religion I was not singling out any one religion, but all organized religions. Does not matter if it is Judaism, Islam, Christianity or Hinduism... their beliefs are already well established and deeply rooted. One does not walk into an organized religion and say "I don't like how this works, let me tell you all how I think this should be done". Organized religion is set in stone.
