Professor Penalizes Student: '"Mankind" Does Not Mean "All People” To All People'

The point is, teachers like her are the REASON our students are inadequately prepared for the real world. Teachers like HER let out those kids to demonstrate after the elections. I find it hypocritical that we can talk about educational reform, while allowing these miserable failures who can't even teach the curriculum she was assigned to teach.

Her job is to make sure her students are proficient in English, with grades not based on grammar or sentence-structure errors, she FAILED. That these associations flagrantly violate those principles means they are guilty of contributing to such failure in our universities.

 

more toddler temper tantrums because you can't control her classroom and her rules. No wonder you guys voted for trump.

 

Exactly...if this was the first paper of the semester I'd have more sympathy. But after a few you've gotta know what the prof is looking for.

 

Poor baby conservatives, its always too much to expect conservatives to learn to abide by the rules governing a class, or accept the results.

 

Always attacking authority when conservatives don't want to accept an unpleasant result. the choice is made to abide by the expectations of the professor or lose points. The student decides to use those pronouns in a contested fashion and the result is predictable. If the student cannot handle it, support universities which can pander and pamper to those whims.

 

What? You guys won't accept an election, instead you run around saying Trump isn't your president during your violent protests.

And I've noticed that you've called conservatives snowflakes in several of your posts. Hmmmm, do you see this student running to a safe space? Do you see this student calling the teacher a racist, bigot, misogynist, homophobic hater of free thought? Did you see any conservative poster here call for any of that?

The professor is misinterpreting a word so it has the meaning she wants it to have and not what it means in real life and for that the student's paper got downgraded, and you're OK with that.

 

You really don't get it do you? This isn't about just this student. This is about this teacher's credibility(or lackthereof) moving forward. Is there ANY grammar error whatsoever in using mankind? Humankind itself is NO DIFFERENT. You added the letters 'H' and 'U'. There's not a single error or misuse whatsoever.

Except one as defined by PERSONAL opinion. And yes, it is a personal opinion even if an Association states that's how they would like to see it. Now, that might be fine in their little kneejerk circle. But improper teaching has real-world consequences when others do not speak in the same way.

She should be FIRED, and so should teachers like her. Because she abused her authority to improperly and incorrectly guide her student-peers who rely on HER for direction. I'm holding her to a much higher standard then you ever would.

 

Back in college, I always presented the appropriate answer regardless of the professor's stance. No one after college is going to prefer the same things the professor does. They will prefer the correct option.

 

This is the same as interpretation of law because you don't like it. Have the dictionary changed, or live with the current meaning.

 

We don't know what else the student did or didn't do. We know that there is some major whining going on by a student who chose not to abide by established guidelines this professor provided. That is special snowflake thinking. the professor isn't whining, she is doing what she said she would do. She is accepting the paper, grading it, and subtracting a few points for the flagrant ignoring of the rule for the papers she accepts and grades. Western civilization and modern American education is now in danger because the Professor wants 'man' and 'mankind' used in a narrow sense rather than inclusive of both genders. that kind of melodramic huey is more special snowflake thinking. Just get your own university and hire whoever you want, so this sad case of conservative privilege can get her degree without conforming to an expectation.

 

I had no idea the Websters were so partisan. Thanks for the insight.

 

There is no 'mankind' and 'womankind' as in separate entities. They are both whole and onesome with humanity. For the Teacher's sensibilities, we could use "Homo Sapiens", but you won't hear anyone but her little kneejerk circle of friends(her colleagues) use the words and in fact NOT EVEN most of them outside of Academia's walls.

Which is exactly the point. This teacher FAILED. And you can't bring yourself to admit she failed. Unfortunately, her failure doesn't affect just her, but the student and other future students. And as far as students leaving the class? That depends on if it was an elective or NOT. God forbid if it were a mandatory class with her.

 

Are you serious? What if a chemistry prof stayed that the atomic weight of oxygen was the same as gold in her class? To hell with the accepted periodic table, she wrote it in her syllabus so get used to it.

 

No you don't get it. Professors are fully entitled to have subjective standards in their classes which do not have to conform with your standards or a dictionary's. It is not represent 'lousy teaching' just because it does not have Webster's stamp of approval.

This is not about what you think this teacher is doing, but about what you are doing. You are acting like a little baby. GET THE **** OFF YOUR ASS AND START YOUR OWN SCHOOL WHERE YOU GET TO DECIDE. Geez. Grow up. You are not the God of education reform.

 

If I get elected, oh you better believe it. Teachers like her get pensions, they get protected and they can sit on their laurels and can use 'subjective standards' while Asia/Europe go ahead. And you apparently have no problem with falling behind on the race of education.

Teachers should not have subjective standards. If that's the case, then conservatives get to have Creationism in public universities. You willing? Oh WAIT, I think I heard crickets now. No, only the PROPER application must apply. She failed, and thus just like a law student who misconducted themselves, this teacher should lose her license if not her job.

 

Stop acting like Websters does anything more than reflect the biases and attitudes of the dominant culture it is edited for. it is a record of language as it is used today, use not a decider of language use. The professor sets the standards and expectations in her class, whether you like them or not. Webster has nothing to do with her class expectations because dictionaries do not hire professors. if this student does not like the rules of the university, including what classes are electives or not or who teaches them the student can find another one. Children, time to put your toys away

 

I certainly hope the student is able to either leave the class or to find another university. Or she may very well "put up with it". Credit to her, because I could not. As I explained before, when my Civics Teacher failed standards, I quit. The problem was with him, not me. That this teacher would grade when there isn't a grammar or usage error(except in her subjective opinion), is not acceptable. It should not be acceptable to the university and not to the fellow student-peers.

These low standards are the EXACT reason our students are failing. You don't see it, because for you it's probably been about a decade and you're obviously an ass kisser. Which I find there are way too many ass kissers in the world.

I'd hate it if such sub standards are now the norm for English classes in university. While I attended my English Class, I got an A and I'm pretty sure I used those 'subjective' "gender-sensitive" words that so impales fear in the "awakened Left world".

And guess what? I'll be using those "gender-sensitive" words in the future, because anyone so weak-willed to feel "triggered" by the use of a word in its proper context is the REAL crybaby. They're the real wimps who weren't properly educated and the lack of a formal education is tantamount to ABUSE of the child.

Yes, it's abusing them and setting them for a world of harshness.

 

you are so wrong here on so many levels. this comment is a perfect example of conservative black/white thinking http://www.azom.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=10266 "
"The periodic table has long-since filled in Mendeleev's gaps and has added new elements. It has even changed the weights of other elements. The periodic table is continually being changed as new discoveries are made and new theories are developed to explain the behavior of chemicals.

A huge number of changes were made to the periodic table in the early parts of the 20th century. However, some interesting and significant changes have been made as recently as the past 20 years."
"http://www.livescience.com/9134-elemental-shift-periodic-table-weight.htmlTen elements that help make up the universe, including the carbon our biology is based on and the oxygen in the air we breathe, are now getting changed in an unprecedented way — they are getting their very atomic weights altered.

Scientists have not invented some magical way to transform the masses of all these elements. Instead, they are updating what are often thought of as constants of nature on the periodic table"

So are professors of science supposed to teach YOUR Table or academia's newer version? My guess is that you conservatives should make the call so students are offended by change.

What we learn is not static nor is what we have been taught. It is driven by academia. Language is not static. It is driven by usage. Social conditions and changes drive that process. the lexicographer records the changes in patterns of usage and those changes are reflected in newer editions.
this professor is not telling anyone how words are used . She is telling her students that the usage in that dictionary reflects, memorializes a political and economic bias that will not be acceptable in papers she grades without a demerit, consistent with established views of the university.

That is her prerogative and that of academia. LIke it or go somewhere else but don't blame the professor. She established her rules consistent with the university ( her employer) and made them clear. This is the direction academia is moving toward. Students have their choices to make.

STOP WHINING.

 

Worthless liberals.

Spend their time in a constant state of cry-baby butt-hurt outrage and dealing with that by holding humanity back.

Hows it feel knowing that the future of MANKIND will regard this era with mockery and contempt?

They're going to look back and see a bunch of perpetually butt-hurt infants who contribute literally nothing to society other than a wagging finger of shame and a loud shrill voice of complaint.

We all make our marks on this world.

I know what mine is, and I know what yours is as well.

 

Well you wrote it well. conservatives like you are in a constant state of crybaby butt-hurt, as is shown in this thread. You don't like a professor who applies her standards and those of many academics and several schools to the papers she grades, because they do not match up with Websters so she represents the fall of western education. Pretty crybaby butt-hurt to me. I sure see your wagging finger of shame all over this thread. its more amusing than anything else.

 

Let me guess, according to you the rise of bigoted SJWism and the decline of millennial success in the professional workplace have nothing to do with one another.

If you're already old and set or have parents who will support you till you die then I suppose there is no reason for you to care.

But if you're just starting out, take it from me, we business owners are going to great lengths to avoid hiring the sort of anti-capitalist, anti-success, anti-ambition, anti-responsibility, anti-education, brainwashed, programmed, fully triggered, butt-hurt, SJW, liberal infants that are being churned out of these Leftist indoctrination factories masquerading as "higher education".

 

That is why business owners like you need to be squeezed until dead. You guys are only tools to a goal, and you can be replaced if you don't function to task. If we progressives are not satisfied that we will get what we need, its figuratively a Burn Baby Burn world for corporate and Business overlords. Now go sell your right wing fantasy to someone who might buy it. I am not interested in your capitalist wet dream.

 

It was a course on "the human condition."

The choice made as much sense as the choice of Spanish only in that class I mentioned.

You are wrong. "Guys" IS a gender neutral word that DOES sound as though it isn't.

 

Poor American conservatives. Always so inappropriately worked up over stuff they consider inappropriately worked up.

Get over it. The professor asked for something...and demanded it.

 

Apparently American conservatism means taking an isolated incident...and making it into a world problem.

Get off it.

You are complaining about something you suppose to be inappropriate...in a very inappropriate way. But...maybe you are just doing it for the laugh value. If so...BINGO!