So besides being a "whacko conspiracy theorist" I'm also a "jerk" to you. Coming from you, I'll take that as a compliment, thanks. I didn't join this forum to shut up, did you? If not, why would you expect me to? I already did, didn't you read my threads on 9/11 or did you just skip them ASSuming they're strictly "conspiracy theories" by a "conspiracy theory whacko"? The lies are documented historical facts. If you missed them, they are exposed quite clearly in meticulous detail in these two threads: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...mission-scam-exposed-in-all-its-glory.495859/ http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-nist-9-11-scam-exposed-in-all-its-glory.458597/ Are those questions about the official 9/11 narrative? No of course not, you have none of those, despite your claims.
You misunderstood the point of the statement. The massive and very ridiculous variances between all the theories is where one of the problems lies. I'll go through your threads and see if there is anything I haven't seen before. I assume nothing about governments, I'm just not as bothered about jumping up and down and complaining, as you are. If you think your action is making a difference, carry on. I don't. No, they are questions about whacko conspiracy theory! I research my own issues and reach my own conclusions. I don't need to post on forums to do this. Which part of this is confusing you? More importantly, so what? Which claims are you referring to? Answer.
Those who believe the Moon Landing was a hoax have to also believe Russia, China and all the world's powers are in on the conspiracy. That point, alone, should convince people the idea of a hoax is ludicrous. For the sane, rational people: http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/apollohoax.html
Ronald Reagan once said "Trust but verify" when discussing reducing nuclear weapons with the USSR. It's good advice with any government. That said, anyone who believes the US could successfully hoodwink the entire planet, especially Russia and China, for almost 5 decades has waaaaaaay too much faith in our own government.
The bottom line is that the anomalies prove the footage we were shown was taken in a studio. http://www.politicalforum.com/index...andings-ever-happened.512081/#post-1067871432 You're basing your opinion on what the mainstream media tell us. What's happening behind the scenes can be quite different. Here's some info for you to check out. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=moonfaker+cold+war&aq=f http://www.nardwuar.com/vs/bill_kaysing/index.html (excerpt) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, why did they keep faking the Apollo flights, I still don't understand. Did the Soviet Union know it was faked? Why did they keep shut up if they knew it was faked? 'Cause a lot of people would think they kept the moon race going to prove the U.S. was better than the Soviet Union. If the Soviet Union knew, why did they let the U.S. get away with this? Well, I'll tell you - at the highest levels there is a coalition between governments. In other words, the Soviets said, if you won't tell on us - and they faked most of their space exploration flights - we won't tell on you. It's as simple as that. See, what Apollo is, is the beginning of the end of the ability of the government to hoodwink and bamboozle and manipulate the people. More and more people are becoming aware in the U.S. that the government is totally and completely public enemy number one. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm (excerpt) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Soviets, with their own competing moon program and an intense economic and political and military rivalry with the USA, could be expected to have cried foul if the USA tried to fake a Moon landing. Theorist Ralph Rene responds that shortly after the alleged Moon landings, the USA silently started shipping hundreds of thousands of tons of grain as humanitarian aid to the allegedly starving USSR. He views this as evidence of a cover-up, the grain being the price of silence. (The Soviet Union in fact had its own Moon program). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Everyone should read Chomsky's analysis of the cold war. http://libcom.org/history/articles/c...?quicktabs_1=0 (excerpt) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On the domestic front, the Cold War helped the Soviet Union entrench its military-bureaucratic ruling class in power, and it gave the US a way to compel its population to subsidise high-tech industry. It isn't easy to sell all that to the domestic populations. The technique used was the old stand-by-fear of a great enemy. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ahhh, so you do believe it's a vast global conspiracy which Putin, China, all the Euro powers and all the Asian powers keep secret because.....we ship them all grain every year? Interesting.
That's a disinfo site. Here's some info on that. https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=125628 The links in post #6 are dead so here's a link to the same info with hotlinks that work. http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-spacewalk-was-faked.520150/#post-1068345086
Thanks for confirming my point: IF the Moon landings had been faked, they'd have been revealed by foreign powers by now.
You're deliberately misconstruing my point. You posted "anyone who believes the US could successfully hoodwink the entire planet". The US government tries to hoodwink the entire planet on many significant issues but they're rarely successful because they've been caught lying almost every time and most people (who are awake) know that. You generalized and so I wasn't responding specifically to the Moon landing issue.
So, do you believe the US not only hoodwinked the entire planet into believe we landed on the Moon and continue to succeed with that hoodwinking 49 years later or do you believe all of the world's modern states, including Russia and China, are engaged in a conspiracy to support the hoax?
Yet you claim the Moon landing is a hoax. How come all the other nations are too stupid to figure out what you've resolved? Are you saying you are smarter than England, France, Germany, Russia, China, Japan and all the other modern nations? Or are you saying they're all in on the conspiracy?
That's not a crazy idea. Governments can make secret deals. The US government isn't exposing the faked Chinese spacewalk. http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=1149.0
The problem with conspiracies is that they always revealed. The more people in on the conspiracy, the faster it's leaked to the world. I've been studying the psychology of conspiracy theorists ever since I got online back in 1986. Although there are no hard and fast rules, unless the person is mentally ill such as a paranoid schizophrenic, it appears most conspiracy theorists obtain a sense of comfort from being "in the know" since, in their minds, a world of chaos scares the **** out of them.
Here's some info on the media that you should check out. http://www.politicalforum.com/index...st-didnt-happen.336026/page-4#post-1063488116 Here's how the conspiracy theorists look at things. http://www.globalresearch.ca/weapon...ory-disinformation-agents-and-the-cia/5524552 http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.com.es/2012/03/radical-rethinking-of-conspiracy.html https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/08/31/are-you-a-mind-controlled-cia-stooge-paul-craig-roberts/ http://www.tomatobubble.com/id196.html This has seversal parts. http://www1.ae911truth.org/faqs/821-why-do-good-people-become-silentor-worseabout-911-.html All of the people talking here have graduate degrees.
Always??? How would you know? And I think you need to go back to square one in your "studies". There are tens of thousands of professionals who are educated in and earn a very lucrative living based on conspiracy theories. For example, the intelligence and criminal justice industries.
Yes of course they are. It doesn't actually matter that noise generating conspiracy claims suggest they could be faked. These files arrived in real time, are vast and a whole series of insurmountable problems exist to prohibit tampering. It would be completely obvious if these large files had been altered. Plus of course there is not one single piece of evidence to suggest they are not authentic.
Yes it is. Informing how many people within them? The more that know the higher the likelihood of a leak. Besides, what idiotic deal keeps every single government involved, permanently quiet! It's completely preposterous to claim that these countries wouldn't immediately expose such fakery. Your whole case is propped up by one subjective claim that has better explanations than the one you make. The rest of your spam has no credence whatsoever and lies in tatters. You have been asked to itemize your so called evidence, but all you do is refer to your wall of debunked spam! Circular and delusional reasoning. Using an actual event in space that was clearly not faked to bolster your absurd claim. Your usual response is bullcrap about credibility where you use YOUR opinion on this ludicrous so called fake event, as your yardstick. You simply cannot make up a more useless and bizarre comparison.
Human nature. Those making a mint off of conspiracy theories are milking the conspiracy theorists for profit. Good for them. P.T. Barnum would be proud.
I have no idea what the MSM is trying to do, I'm not the MSM. I merely found this article and posted it for the benefit of those who don't believe the US sent humans to the Moon. Why is this such a difficult concept that you need to invent all sorts of things about me or what I believe or don't?
