Proof of a faked Apollo landing???

Discussion in 'Moon Landing' started by Bob0627, Nov 20, 2017.

  1. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Next time they show up on the moon, the flag will be in a hanging down position.
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    Yet another idiotic post, talk about preposterous.
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    LOLOL. Sorry dude, the flag will be down on the pole.

    They may not have air, but they do have gravity.
    Or maybe that's just a false claim by the government.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Lots of things come from the government are true, in spite of what you say.
    some stuff has to be hidden for many reasons.

    Yours are blanket statements,

    I always trust the government,
    You don't know that.

    Obviously you never trust the government.
    You should find a country you can trust, and move there.
     
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  3. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah everything you fear and don't want to know.

    You haven't ever shown otherwise, in fact you've always shown you do.

    Give me one reason I ever should. The founders didn't, that's why they created a new government. They also recommended everyone should when it no longer serves them, that it is their individual right and duty.

    At your age you should have realized long ago that country and government are not one and the same. Perhaps you're not as old as your profile claims you are, your posts display a juvenile mentality. Countries are simply pieces of land that have borders created on paper. Governments are made up of a small group of individuals, often striving for power and wealth at the expense of many.

    "It is the duty of every patriot to protect his country from its government." - Thomas Paine (or Edward Abbey)
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    You are speaking of two incidents.

    the moon landing, which actually did happen.
    The plane crashes on 9/11, which actually did happen.
     
  5. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    The point is you haven't posted anything to show you don't trust the US government. There is not one post from you that questions anything you've been fed. All your posts indicate you believe official US government stories in every detail without question. And whenever any poster indicates there are serious problems with these stories or suggests alternate theory, you either defend the official story, ridicule the poster (including troll) or any combination. You're not the only poster here who does that though, there are many like minded posters.

    The way I see it is if you (or others) truly believe what you've been fed is accurate and anything else is absurd, why are you posting in this section of the forum daily responding to "nut cases", "troofers", "conspiracy theorists" (as you regard them) or whatever silly label you place on posters who don't believe these stories? It certainly sounds to me like you really are not as confident as you pretend to be that these stories are what the US government claims they are.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    You have a vivid imagination, and are quite less than truthful.
    Why should I not trust the government in these situations.
    I have also posted that there are many unanswered questions, for several reasons,
    National security,
    First time in a panic situation, possible war, things are overlooked.

    But just because a question is not answered, does not mean you can invent one.

    I suspect the one plane over Penn, may have been shot down, but so what.

    I never said I believe everything the government says, you made that up.
    There are many things going on, the general public just cannot know about.
    Especially in a free society where there are all the groups present.
     
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  7. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    I haven't imagined anything, your next statement confirms exactly what I posted.

    Why should you? What reason do you have to trust government in ANY situation? Where were they on 9/11? Where were they after 9/11? In fact they were MIA prior to 9/11 too, at least Bush was. You ask really idiot questions about trust when they are obviously untrustworthy.

    That's only one. So now you also trust the US government to tell you it's for "national security" purposes that they don't want you to know about "these situations", the one called 9/11. And you're ok with that?

    Yeah like the fact that there were never any WMDs, that was "overlooked". So they "panicked" and went to war massacring innocent men, women and children because shyt got "overlooked".

    I can ask and "invent" any question I want, who are you to say I can't? Like you mean questions to NIST such as why they concocted the data and failed to interview hundreds of eyewitnesses who claimed to have heard explosions and saw molten steel, iron or metal? Such as why they failed to make their work available for peer review? Why did the 9/11 Commission fail to mention WTC7 or Rodriguez's testimony or Mineta's or Edmonds in their report? Why did they rely on and use testimony as key evidence that was taken 3rd party from a detainee who was mercilessly tortured and was not allowed to read the "confession" he signed? Those kinds of questions I am prohibited from inventing? Because you say so?

    So what? So you were LIED to that's so what. And if you were LIED to about that, what else were you LIED to about? What about those hundreds of thousand of documents you have no clue about and neither does anyone else? You trust that they're keeping all that from you for your own good? That's what NIST said when asked to share their data, models and methodology, just because there were basic physics questions about their theory, that to open up for show and tell would "jeopardize public safety". They didn't even want to discuss physics implications of their own work. And you're ok with that, you "trust" these charlatans?

    You're right, for the first time you question the Shanksville incident. Congrats, you actually think they're lying to you but that's ok for you, no problem.

    Like 9/11? Where does it say that in the Constitution?

    So in a "free society" you believe government should hide information such as 9/11?

    Like for those groups who want to know the truth about 9/11 because they know they're being lied to? Those groups? They "just cannot know about" 9/11?

    And I have a "vivid imagination"? I would rather have a vivid imagination than be a trusting complacent robot, any time. At least I can "imagine" questions you would never ask because you're a real trusting character.
     
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    So you just make up whatever comes to your mind.
     
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    Start watching this at the 1:17:00 time mark.

    What Happened On the Moon? Part 2 - Environmental Dangers & The Trouble with Rockets



    If they had the technology to soft-land unmanned robotic craft on the moon, they could have sent one that had adjustable reflectors attached to it. If the Sureyor program* was real, they had that technology. Reflectors on the moon are not proof that there were men on the moon.

    Here's some more stuff for the viewers to check out.
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=UUPX7KGp1cjY5HQqbjeoyC4Q


    *
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveyor_program
     
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    Here's more on the stars issue.

    http://www.aulis.com/stars.htm
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    "Seeing the bright blue sky turning pitch-black and seeing stars appear while it is daytime is absolutely mind-blowing."

    Melvill was amazed by the stars, whereas the Apollo astronauts were not.

    While defenders of NASA might say that the Apollo astronauts were simply emphasizing the blackness of space, and not the stars – we do know that the stars are indeed visible from the lunar surface. Of course the Apollo astronauts would have seen stars from the lunar surface as clearly and as vividly as did Mike Melvill.
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    More stuff here.
    http://www.aulis.com/investigation.htm
     
  11. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    That's a really pathetic response to what I posted. What did I make up Einstein?
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    I have no intention of responding to a page long rant.
    If you want to address things one at a time, so we can make a resolution, we can do so.
     
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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    I don't "rant", I posted a response to your post. Just because you don't want to respond to it doesn't make it a "rant".

    I seriously doubt there is any resolution to be had with you nor do I care if there is or isn't, I'm only interested in adult intelligent discussions, regardless that they resolve anything or not. I wrote a post, it's your call how you want to respond to it or not. You also failed to answer my questioning your claim that I made something up. I am truly not concerned if you respond or don't, that's also your call. Often I just get some childish trolling silliness from you as a response and that garbage doesn't interest me.
     

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