Prostitution should be legal!!!

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  1. Yant0s

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    Why feminists should be fighting for prostitution to be legal.

    Women have the right to do what they like regarding their body. They should not be told to dress, look and act a certain way.

    If women want to take up sex work as a good, honest hardworking pofession who are we to stand in their way.


    Without legalisation the industry is unregulated, unsafe health and safety practices are allowed to take place, pay is not standardised , pensions, holidays and sick pay are non existent.


    To protect these women standardisation, regulation and legalisation of the industry needs to take place.
     
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    All feminists do not think alike. Some say it is exploitation of women and others see it as you do
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_views_on_prostitution
     
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    I have mixed feelings on the topic. I think it's exploitation of women (and children) and needs to be stamped out. At the same time, though, pornography is legal. Why is sex for money illegal if it's done on the street but legal if it's done in front of a camera? Another problem is pimps. If we could get rid of pimps, exploitation of women (and children) would drop precipitously. On the other hand, pimps protect streetwalkers from the worst types of clients, and women who don't have one frequently end up getting hurt or killed. On the other other hand, women who do have a pimp frequently end up getting hurt or strung out on drugs.

    I know, let's have government run cat houses. Government can be the pimp and the women will have decent food and housing and won't have drugs and alcohol forced on them. (That's half serious, half facetious.)
     
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    Oh gods, do NOT let the government run the cat houses! Can you imagine the red tape? Not to mention how many government workers are typically under paid.

    I will not say anything against pimps per se. Not to say there are not bad ones but there are also good ones. You don't hear about them much because they are not newsworthy. With that said, assuming prostitution was legal, I can easily see it treated like many other fields. You can be an independent contractor or hire onto a business. No reason why an individual can't make a place where men and women wanting to do sex work can't hire on at, or even contract with. It would be interesting to see which models work best.
     
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    In my opinion, men should base their votes on self interest rather then unearned guilt. Men should vote for legalization. We are grateful to everyone supporting legalization. Those who oppose are within their rights. The will of the majority is the Law and must be obeyed.
     
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    Many prostitutes are not doing what they want with their bodies. Many are forced by pimps, told their family will be killed if they run, and told fake johns will test them with "blink your right eye if you are here against your will." They are beaten if they blink, until they pass that test with a believeable smile.

    It is difficult for police to tell the difference between victims and willing prostitutes. I agree they should not go to jail. But they should be forceably detained in safehouses to keep the unwilling ones from being raped. This does mean the willing ones will have trouble making money, but it is worth the trade off. As for johns, I say severe penalties.



    Would you pay for sex if you knew there was even a 1 in 5 chance she was unwilling and a fearfully good actor, and that the money would all go to a pimp, and she would feel raped by you?


    Prostitution charges are not the only reason prostitutes don't go to the police. Fear of their family being killed is another. They fear the pimp more. But also some of their meanest customers are off duty police officers.
     
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    My thought exactly. We need government to be the pimp. Only problem is the very slow fight over rules. But at least it would end the worst pimps.


    As pornography, that too, and stripping, often results in no money for the women, with pimp getting all. Same with modelling.

    But the worst prostitution is when the woman can't pick her casting mate, because he is an ugly old man trying to get around prostitution laws by filming it. I've stumped on pictures that looked very non consensual, like she regretted agreeing to the act and was stuck in it. I hope those guys get metoo'd.


    And guys, we are next. Curvy women want to see videos of fit guys going down on and being dominated by curvy women. Curvy means fat. Soon financially desperate men will be raped by fat women. I can already see pictures online. Maybe some are threatened false accusations by a pressured child and choose fat butt licking over prison.

    To end rape, we should outlaw porn where one party is going down on an ugly person. We can't know if there is consent but think it is not likely.
     
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    As for good legal businesses, I've worked in it seen many industries and know there are some very bad companies in each. Workers best shop around and leave when they find better. They problem is some make cash desperate people sign very unfair contracts. So we need more limits on what contract provisions we will enforce. For example, some companies put employees through what they claim is very expensive taining and say they can work it off and owe it all if they leave.
     
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    You don't have guilt yet (for desiring sex), but you will have earned guilt if you pay to have a rape victim served up in front of you for your pleasure. Please save your money and use your hand.

    I believe strip clubs are a more humane compromise. Yes, some women are working for free. But at least all they have to do is walk nude on a stage, not get penetrated. I'm against VIP room and all for stage dances. Women need a way to make money so they are not tempted by scam offers, so stripping does that.



    As for our own best interests, there will soon be more male sex slaves as women make more money. Also, there are other firms of slavery and bad contracts already.
     
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    That's silly. Ugly people look at porn, too, and it's more relatable if they can see themselves in the picture.

    I think most of your doom and gloom is going to be forestalled and/or offset by sexbots. If anything, we should be worried about prostitutes being put out of business and being thrown on the dole. :eek:
     
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    It is far fewer than one in five.

    True there are some who are being forced into it but the vast majority are in it of their own choice.

    This is why whenever a bust is made involving human trafficking the narrative of trafficking falls apart as the details come out.
     
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    All we need is a whoring license one for the whores and one for the pimps, no license as a whore or a pimp make it a far harsher felony on both counts the pimps worse based on how they treat their whores.
     
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    Why do you all think prostitution is voluntary, when so many pretty ones have escaped send said the extreme opposite? Why are you willing to take the chance?
    I look forward to sex bots ending some of the human slavery. As for the slaves being out of work, they are paid nothing right now. The pimp gets everything. Once freed, the woman can make at least minimum wage and likely far more.
     
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    Sure, I agree. Let's regulate it. Just like all other businesses. Requiring blood tests every 30 days, require them to display the test results. Require them to be certified by the State. No difference between this and one night stands, except safer. Right?

    If the Prostitute is 21 it should be legal.

    How far should it go? Should the Government regulate the charge?

    It is an age old debate about whether the Government should control what we do with our bodies. What we put in it, what we do with it.

    I say they they should take a backseat.
     
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    a women and man should be able to decide what they do with they own bodies

    like with abortion what should not be allowed is others to force women or men to have sex against their will
     
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    no one supports forced prostitution anymore then forced child birth or force abortions
     
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    so should we outlaw young beautiful women marrying ugly older men for their money
     
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    There will always be prostitutes. They would be safer, cleaner, healthier and more prosperous if it were legal. Restrictions just drive them into the black market where regulation is impossible and abuse is commonplace.
     
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    You point about protection is so very important. However, in many countries where prostitution is legal prostitutes, both male and female, have no protection from police who act as if the game was illegal. They will for instance refuse to protect. prostitutes when their pimps bash them up or take an unfair percent of their earnings. Many prostitutes are working as illegal immigrants transported to foreign countries under false pretences only to find themselves subject to blackmail because of their illegal alien status.
    Then we have the scenario of some marriages being no more than legal high class ( read expensive) prostitution.
    On the other side of the coin is the social service many prostitutes provide. Not only do they satisfy kinky requirements for cash they obviate the need for marital partners to provide them. Feel like slappping hubby with raw tribe dear? I think not.
    A close friend worked for years as a ‘lady of the night' catering to disabled clients who found it almost impossible to find a partner in the outside world.
    As to feminists against prostitution I wonder why they often ignore the scale of male prostitution, especially when boys are involved.
     
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    Ok, so at least we agree that the workers should not be put in prison or given criminal records. Y'all seem to have no idea just how much power pimps have over the women, taking them to a different country with different language and taking their ID and threatening them, etc.

    You said you want the workers tested. Should the customers have to be tested too?
     
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    Given advances in medical pathology it could be done on the spot for some sexually transmitted diseases but I suspect customers would be turned off by being asked to give a blood sample etc. The most effective way to prevent transmission is the insistence male customers use condoms.
    Some working girls however are willing to by-pass the requirement for significant extra payment. There is a case going through the courts here in Australia where a doctor had sex with another man.
    Said doctor commenced with a condom but surreptitiously removed it later in proceedings with disastrous results for his partner who is now suing him.
     
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    Thank you. Definitely, most sex workers are on their free will. Any professional may be working under compulsion.

    Anyone who is against legalization is free to vote against it.

    But any sane man should base his vote on his own interests rather then unearned guilt. Men should vote for legalization. If it passes it passes. If it fails it fails.
     
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