Purely academic discussion about gun control

guns are an extremely dangerous item and therefore should face stronger regulations than buying a toaster or a baseball glove.

 

guns are not people.

they are inanimate objects that can't feel pain.

 

how are guns "extremely dangerous" when the 400 million in the USA kill less people than cars?

 

that's a dishonest argument. gun bans harass and harm people.

 

Yeah that already happened.

 

are you saying guns have feelings and can suffer pain, like people?

 

are you denying the silly laws you support don't harass honest people?

 

How exactly does the volume of purchase factor into such? If a person can legally purchase one firearm, why not as many as they can afford in a given period of time? Are multiple firearms in the possession of one individual anymore dangerous than only one firearm?

 

cars are also very dangerous.

that's why we require licenses, driving field tests, driving written tests, eye exams, and strictly regulate and police the use of cars on public roads.

 

you're very big on the word "harrassment".

seems like a persecution complex.

 

cars are far more dangerous. almost all gun deaths are intentional. almost all car deaths are accidental. and no one is using regulations for driving to try to ban cars.

 

as opposed to your obvious desire to harass lawful gun ownership If the GCAs didn't spend so much time pushing for crap that only limits the rights of honest people

Magazine bans
semi auto bans
MG bans
waiting periods
licenses
background checks
limits on how many guns you can buy in a month

then maybe you'd have a point.

 

car usage is severely regulated.

licensing, road tests, written exams.

eye exams.

car usage is very strictly monitored and policed by cops on state roads, speed cameras, red light cameras, stop signs, stop lights, yield signs, cross-walks.

and we have all sorts of regulations on cars to increase their safety and reduce their pollution.

if we had even half as many rules on guns as we have cars, it would be a different world

 

again with that word "harrass".

do you feel harrassed, bro?

 

MPG rules.

seatbelt rules.

yearly exhaust inspections.

eye exams.

written exam.

road test.

weight regulations.

backup camera requirements.


cars are VERY regulated.

much more than guns.

 

That's very unfair of you to try changing the argument in a thread you started.
It's called "shifting the goal post". And so your argument doesn't deserve a response.

If you want to discuss that, start a separate thread.

(Btw, anyone can buy a car, but not anyone can drive it on a public-owned road)

 

"Focus" is the model of a popular car.

 

not relevant-you push for laws that ONLY impact honest people. CRIMINALS ARE ALREADY BANNED from owning guns. So your arguments are specious

 

There is a difference between possession laws versus sales laws or local safety ordinances.

 

Ronstar, I stayed at someone's house in one of the cantons in Switzerland who was legally obligated to keep a military assault rifle and 3 military-issued grenades in his house. He was crazy, bi-polar, had extreme desperate bouts of sadness and rage sometimes. He told them he wanted to return those items, that he was afraid he might do something he would regret. They let him return back the grenades but told him he still had to keep the rifle.
It's one of the more conservative cantons. The small country has traditionally always been paranoid about the possibility of being invaded, so they want all their citizens ready at a moment's notice.

Also let's not forget that 2003 terrorist attack that took place on a U.S. military base, where one of the Army soldiers, with access to grenades, murdered two fellow soldiers but was attempting to kill many more. The soldier had earlier converted to Islam.
There's always going to be some people who have access to these sort of things, and they could misuse them.

 

And exactly what are such regulations serving to prevent from happening with regard to motor vehicles?

 

Don't even argue with him, he's just going to throw a barrage of different arguments at you, and as soon as you respond to one he's just going to change it up to something different, to keep you constantly on the defense.

 

And none of those things can prevent you from plowing into a group of people with it.

The things you listed are to prevent accidents, not intentional attacks with a vehicle.

 

And not one of them would stop someone from running you over if they wanted to.

 

Sure you can.

Cars are stolen and operated by people without licenses all the time.