Putin did not "Want Trump to Win"

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  1. PatriotNews

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    Sorry not sorry. I see no reason why Putin would want Trump to win, and every reason why he would want Crooked Hillary.

    So far, I have seen no evidence produced that shows Putin wanted Trump to win. Oh sure, the Intel agencies say so. The very same agencies that are actively trying to frame him for collusion. But if they had said otherwise, what good would it be for them to frame him for collusion? You can't frame him for collusion if Putin didn't want Trump to win.

    Crooked Hillary on the other hand, can be bought. She sold him uranium for $145 million. He probably has her 33,000 deleted emails to extort her with. Care to see what other blackmail material they have on the Clinton's? With child rapist Bill on the loose, you know that's one thick file. They gave Crooked Hillary dirt on Trump to use on the dossier. Doesn't that prove they were helping Crooked Hillary?

    On the other hand, the Trump Tower meeting gave the Trump campaign nothing. You have an alleged Russian agent, Natalia Veselnitskaya, who met with them. If they wanted Trump to win, why did they leave empty handed?why not hand over a Russian dossier on Crooked Clinton? Why not give the the 33,000 deleted emails? Trump has been tougher on Russia than Hillary would be.

    Prove me wrong.
     
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    Trump never worked with Putin, that's just a laughable accusation by the left.

    The biggest thing they can come up with to prove it is that Putin wants us out of NATO because they think he is planning on invading Europe.

    That's even more laughable.

    And all those ads they "secretly" released were not all pro Trump, many were pro Hillary so if they were trying to influence the election they sure went about it in a very weird way.

    I think they actually spent less than 20,000 dollars to buy all of that advertising now are you really trying to change an election with 20,000?

    And if anything, tensions have ramped up with Russia since Trump took office, not decreased.

    Yet the left still wants to call Trump Russia's puppet.

    Funny stuff there.
     
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    Trump isn't a puppet. He's like the Hills Have Eyes brother they hid.
     
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    They hid a brother who was a genius real estate billionaire and television reality show star?
     
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    My suggestion to you is follow the saying: "GOOGLE is your friend" and give it a try. There's a whole world of information available for you just waiting at your fingertips. However, you have to make the first move. Give it a try. You'll be amazed.
     
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    You'll be buying the self made man fib next
     
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    So you want me to do some research supporting your rebuttal and then write and essay making your point? Do your own homework.

    It's a new argument fallacy, "Google it!"
     
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    His dad was a multimillionaire, he's a billionaire. I don't care if he borrowed $1,000,000 or inherited $100,000,000.
     
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    At least you didn't buy into the myth. First stage in realising the dangers of inequality of opportunity!
     
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    No need to prove anything. Your partisan bias makes you take that position in spite of reality.
     
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    Also the first stage in realizing life is not fair.
     
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    If can't present a counterargument then you're just trolling.
     
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    Interesting. Does Google ever provide incorrect information? Can both sides find arguments to support their position on Google?
     
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    /end thread. There's no challenge to my thesis.
     
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    He wanted Trump to win because Trump is weakminded and easily manipulated. Trump's huge ego and extreme case of narcissism makes him extremely susceptible to maniplution. Someone just has to stroke his ego, and talk about how smart he is, and he will do whatever they suggest to him, especially if he thinks it will make him look good, or make him money.
     
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    Yeah, it can be challenging. Common sense has a lot to do with it. If you find 24 sources that say A and one source that says B you have to make a difficult decision on which sources to believe.
     
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    I have. I'm suggesting you do the same.
     
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    Who ever put that load of crap in your brain? (Besides the fools in the MSM)

    So far all I've seen is strong minded firm leadership and not willing to back down even under enormous pressure. If what you say is true, Putin made a big miscalculation. My guess is that's just more hate Trump #FakeNews bull.
     
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    :police: Trolling. I will provide more evidence Putin didn't want Trump. I won't wait for something that looks like a rebuttal from you.
     
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    I am not so sure that volume is how one accurately assesses the veracity of claims on the internet. I'd tend to recommend actual credible sources instead. There are plenty of falsehoods that get repeated ad nauseam and thus have countless links on Google.
     
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    I think Putin was going with Bernie.

    It's no secret that Putin wanted Obama to win in 2008.
    No freaking way did Putin want to see John McCain in the White House.
     
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    Why bother. You will just post the same made up silliness.
     
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    Why bother is right. You'll only look foolish.
     
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    Russia alleges that Clinton as Secretary of State propagated protests and riots against Putin, and funded anti-Russian Ukrainian militias. Along with aggressive rhetoric against Russia during her campaign, there’s plenty to suggest Putin was opposed to a Clinton presidency.
     
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    Hmmm. Tough talk against Russia eh? I think she spent more time coughing on the campaign trail than talking about Russia.
     

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